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Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:36 am to FalseProphet
He will win his appeal.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:37 am to FalseProphet
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You don't give the benefit of the doubt to someone who failed.
You know the circumstances in which he "failed"?
And you know this how?
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It's their burden to prove that they didn't or shouldn't have.
I started to write a bunch of possible scenarios to show how ridiculous this statement is, but, if you really believe that, then I'm not gonna convince you of anything.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:39 am to taf
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I started to write a bunch of possible scenarios to show how ridiculous this statement is, but, if you really believe that, then I'm not gonna convince you of anything.
Do you know how academic appeals work? It is his burden to show that he was entitled to something different.
Jesus. It's like none of you ever went to school. People want to hand degrees to athletes, place the burden on the administration to show what grade someone got, and want to just allow people who didn't earn a grade (something the coach apparently acknowledges via the boot) to keep playing.
What the frick have we come to that athletics are more important than our school?
This post was edited on 5/12/15 at 9:41 am
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:41 am to Broski
quote:yes....but I don't see how he gets it back
If Foster wins his ineligibility appeal, should he be allowed back?
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:50 am to Broski
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What a stupid analogy.
Not as stupid as this thread...of course you let him back on the team...
Look this kid has done everything in the world to be at LSU, walked on the football team, then stayed with baseball, then this last year, gave up his fall to play football as a scout squad QB and got hurt for his troubles...
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:52 am to FalseProphet
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What the frick have we come to that athletics are more important than our school?
money. do you post on a sports message board because you enjoy seeing 22 year olds make good grades in school? no you, enjoy watching them play sports.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:54 am to lsufball19
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money. do you post on a sports message board because you enjoy seeing 22 year olds make good grades in school? no you, enjoy watching them play sports.
I have season tickets to more than one sport, but if an 18-22 year old with all the help in the world can't make mostly C's and D's to pass, then I don't think he has any business being on the field.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:56 am to Broski
We honestly shouldn't feel bad for him. I hope it all works out, but if you can't take care of your books, you have no business on the field. You are a student-athlete while you have the "LSU" on your chest. Take care of your business. You can go to class, pay attention, not study, and pass.
Especially with all the extra tutoring they have at their disposal.
Especially with all the extra tutoring they have at their disposal.
This post was edited on 5/12/15 at 9:57 am
Posted on 5/12/15 at 9:59 am to FalseProphet
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I have season tickets to more than one sport, but if an 18-22 year old with all the help in the world can't make mostly C's and D's to pass, then I don't think he has any business being on the field.
i'm not saying i have any sympathy for kids that can't pass, but you seem to be implying that you feel like your degree loses value if athletes aren't held by the same academic standards. Well, even the ones that are getting by aren't held to the same standards, both getting admitted into the school and after they're there
Posted on 5/12/15 at 10:02 am to lsufball19
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but you seem to be implying that you feel like your degree loses value if athletes aren't held by the same academic standards.
I am not implying it, I'm saying it. ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS PASS LEGITIMATELY.
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Well, even the ones that are getting by aren't held to the same standards, both getting admitted into the school and after they're there
That's sad. And it always will be. And it's even more sad that you are perfectly fine with it.
This post was edited on 5/12/15 at 10:04 am
Posted on 5/12/15 at 10:04 am to Cameron Cooke
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We honestly shouldn't feel bad for him. I hope it all works out, but if you can't take care of your books, you have no business on the field. You are a student-athlete while you have the "LSU" on your chest. Take care of your business. You can go to class, pay attention, not study, and pass.
What everybody doesn't understand is; The reason he is failing by (1) point is his partner on a group project said he had a donor and failed to get the donation at the last second.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 10:10 am to FalseProphet
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I am not implying it, I'm saying it. ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS PASS LEGITIMATELY.
Do you honestly believe athletes that skirt by in a general studies major are passing legitimately? Serious question. I'd guess about a quarter of the football team does not have the mental capacity to pass legitimately . If we wanted all our athletes to pass legitimately , as in like every other student, we would not be competitive in anything. You see the same threads over and over about guys trying to become eligible while being permitted to take classes at LSU. Any other student would be at a community college trying to get into the school period. College for the majority of the big sport athletes is nothing more than a perceived stepping stone to professional sports, so it's useless trying to pretend or hope that that will change.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 10:12 am to tdsrus
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What everybody doesn't understand is; The reason he is failing by (1) point is his partner on a group project said he had a donor and failed to get the donation at the last second.
Then he may be successful on his appeal. If it was really that easy, and that is the whole story, then I have no clue why Manieri gave him the boot.
I have a hard time believing that's the ENTIRE story based on Manieri's actions.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 10:12 am to tdsrus
quote:We didn't HAVE to win this Mizzou series. CPM knows the likelihood that Foster won't play anymore this season, so he needed to find a 2nd base replacement. I would much rather a new 2nd basemen get reps now. The more reps the better.
Its clear to me Mainieri doesn't like Foster. His ineligibility didn't start until Monday, and he knew Foster was appealing. Most coached would stick up for there players
Go take your cry baby arse some where else
This post was edited on 5/12/15 at 10:13 am
Posted on 5/12/15 at 10:23 am to FalseProphet
That was my thoughts as well. Unless CPM was only trying to make a statement that no matter what the situation is if your deemed academically ineligible your done until it gets straightened out.
On the other side, there has to be some kind of case for Jared. He's not going in front of whoever to make his appeal saying well I just wanna play again. There is something that he has to make a case with weather its a strong case of a pretty long shot. I just feel the way CPM handled this situation (from the fan perspective anyway) it wasn't that simple.
On the other side, there has to be some kind of case for Jared. He's not going in front of whoever to make his appeal saying well I just wanna play again. There is something that he has to make a case with weather its a strong case of a pretty long shot. I just feel the way CPM handled this situation (from the fan perspective anyway) it wasn't that simple.
This post was edited on 5/12/15 at 10:31 am
Posted on 5/12/15 at 10:28 am to Drakeo1990
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That was my thoughts as well. Unless CPM was only trying to make a statement that no matter what the situation is if your deemed academically ineligible your done until it gets straightened out.
What ever happened to a coach having a players back until the due process was complete? How many times did you see Jimbo Fisher defend Jamis Winston last year?
Posted on 5/12/15 at 10:34 am to tdsrus
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What ever happened to a coach having a players back until the due process was complete?
CPM made the right move IMHO. Having no idea how this wil play out, the team is best served giving others playing time. Go with what you know to be the case and play the players on your roster who will be needed going forward.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 10:35 am to tdsrus
He could have his back all he wants but the bottom line is as of now the kid can't play.
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