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I was watching Minn play GB today when Danielle Hunter was brought up
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:16 pm
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:16 pm
He made an outstanding play to disrupt a GB drive. The announcers were sayin about how excited Minn was about his young talent and future. But then went on to say about how he had really received no real coaching at all, and was just now getting the proper coaching on pass rushing the QB and being a DE. About Minn sayin how he was being showed pass rushing moves because he had none when he arrived. Sayin he was really raw! But I already knew that comin out of LSU with Chavis and Brick Hayley having shown the kid shite. Just put him in there and it was his pure talent that caused him to make plays.
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Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:19 pm to tubucoco
Brick Haley was not very good. I really wish we could have gotten Orgeron and Chavis together. Would have been perfect.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:23 pm to NeverRains
Wait, this is the Chavis everybody was ready to run off this time last year?
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:24 pm to NeverRains
What a joke. I'll bet he was never taught to rush the passer. I'm sure you can coach at a major college program, in the nfl, etc without knowing how to teach a lineman to rush the passer. LSU was focused on stopping the run, it was key to the game plan. How you boys like all those sacks we're getting now? It's real great to always rush up the field and have teams run right by you isn't it? But hell, those sack numbers are up so that's all that matters right? At least we don't have to worry about losing a game on the last drive, cause the game is over by halftime. Great job O and Steele.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:26 pm to tubucoco
After he was drafted, his Dline coach called him in the office and reviewed some tape of him at LSU and basically came to the conclusion that Brick didn't teach him any technique at all. That was an NFL Dline coaches words.
Which was pretty evident because he had way more potential than he showed.
Which was pretty evident because he had way more potential than he showed.
This post was edited on 11/22/15 at 11:54 pm
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:28 pm to LATIGERFAN
We give up 135 ypg rushing this year.
Which is less than in 2014 (152 ypg) and 2013 (143 ypg), but feel free to keep talking out of your arse.
Which is less than in 2014 (152 ypg) and 2013 (143 ypg), but feel free to keep talking out of your arse.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:29 pm to Jim Rockford
by this time last year, Chavis had pretty much righted the ship and had us as he #1 defense in the SEC. there was still the matter of the last drive vs Bama, but the D had clearly improved. now Sept/ early Oct of last year, everyone wanted him gone.
Hunter was always a bit of a curious case to me (even with the coaching deficiencies). his TFLs were on par with Sam/ Mingo, but his sacks were always lacking. hell, I think he might've set an LSU record for tackles by a DL. you'd think he might just stumble into a few sacks here or there, but it didn't happen.
Hunter was always a bit of a curious case to me (even with the coaching deficiencies). his TFLs were on par with Sam/ Mingo, but his sacks were always lacking. hell, I think he might've set an LSU record for tackles by a DL. you'd think he might just stumble into a few sacks here or there, but it didn't happen.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:29 pm to Fight4LSU
Yes I read the story. He taught Mingo to pass rush and Montgomery and Edwards to pass rush but in three years never bothered to teach Hunter. I wonder why? Or maybe he didn't teach any of those guys either they were just naturals and the coaching they got in highschool was enough.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:31 pm to tubucoco
I laughed when I heard that as well. I've attended some practices in the past and Haley would let a ga run the defensive line drills. He was a complete joke.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:34 pm to ATLTiger
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by this time last year, Chavis had pretty much righted the ship and had us as he #1 defense in the SEC.
There's still the Music City Bowl to look forward to.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:35 pm to tubucoco
Well, Green Bay said the exact same thing about Flynn during his first year, that they had to reteach him some fundamentals
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:35 pm to MrSpock
True, we gave up a ton last year to MSU and auburn with DJ in the middle then righted the ship. This year we played one team with a pulse on offense in the first seven games and the numbers against the run were good, especially adding in a wky that throws the ball 90% of the time. Then the real tests come and we're getting run out of the stadium.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:36 pm to Fight4LSU
Brick Hayley was a former NFL DLine coach. He was with Chicago I believe before takin the LSU job. But I could see how LSU DLinemen were rushing that he wasn't showing them shite. That studs like Mingo and Montgomery could have been even better if the lazy piece of shite did his job with them. I was glad when he was gone
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:44 pm to LATIGERFAN
Mingo and Montgomery got to QB's off their pure talent. Believe me, it wasn't nothing Hayley showed them. Mingo was ridiculous for fat OT's with his speed and big Sam used his power. I would look at LSU DLineman pass rush while Hayley was there and all would rush the QB the same way. Just straight bull rush with no moves whatsoever. I know some of it was Chavis' system for containment, but the rest was simple. They knew no pass rushing moves or how to change in and out with teammates to open lanes to the QB. And all that falls on Hayley.
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Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:44 pm to LATIGERFAN
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What a joke. I'll bet he was never taught to rush the passer. I'm sure you can coach at a major college program, in the nfl, etc without knowing how to teach a lineman to rush the passer. LSU was focused on stopping the run, it was key to the game plan. How you boys like all those sacks we're getting now? It's real great to always rush up the field and have teams run right by you isn't it? But hell, those sack numbers are up so that's all that matters right? At least we don't have to worry about losing a game on the last drive, cause the game is over by halftime. Great job O and Steele.
You are stupid as hell. Bama is #2 in the country in sacks and #2 in rush defense. Bama has a lineman with 9 sacks and 11.5 TFL. It's not one or the other dumbass.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:54 pm to Datbayoubengal
Who says it had to be one or the other? Let's see here, Haley didn't do jack, it was the grad asst coaching, Chavis was lazy about recruiting and his defense couldn't make stops on third down or at the end of the game. I remember hearing that Stud sucked and had to go. We all know Miles is a clown who can't coach. How in the hell did we win all those games running the football and playing defense with such fools as our coaches? I guess the players just did it themselves. Hell, they beat Sabear two years in a row all by themselves despite our coaches. I never truly appreciated those players I guess.
Posted on 11/23/15 at 12:04 am to tubucoco
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He made an outstanding play to disrupt a GB drive.
Can you describe the play? Because I watched some of that game, and I think I saw and heard what you're talking about, but before I question the accuracy of what you said you heard the announcers say, I want to be sure we're talking about the same thing.
Regarding Danielle, he had a good game from what I saw. I've seen the Vikings play a few times this year, and he has been doing really good at DE.
By the way, I haven't seen the actual numbers on all the players, but I've seen it reported by a number of sites that he is the youngest player in the NFL.
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The NFL’s youngest player seeks a sack of a superstar to add to rookie achievements.
This post was edited on 11/23/15 at 12:20 am
Posted on 11/23/15 at 12:57 am to tubucoco
Real coaching hasn't happened at LSU at any level or position in years. Did anyone catch Jeremy Hill's sideline interview during his bye week last year, or Odell Beckhams? Both were asked on their visit back to LSU what the difference was between playing in the NFL and the SEC, was it the speed? Strength? etc... They had the same answer, the speed and strength was all the same as the SEC, everyone was fast. The biggest difference was the preparation for each game, coaching and strategy. Everyone knew their assignments and role, there was intense work around strategy sessions and opponent match up and a tremendous amount of game planning and discipline installed. There was no going out there and winging it like we've seen happen so many times with Les Miles "coached" teams. Bye Les!
Posted on 11/23/15 at 6:24 am to rcsetiger
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The biggest difference was the preparation for each game, coaching and strategy. Everyone knew their assignments and role, there was intense work around strategy sessions and opponent match up and a tremendous amount of game planning and discipline installed.
In the NFL, you come to work (playing football being your job), lift, watch film, practice, watch more film, and get with position coaches and watch film. In college you are limited to 20 hours a week of practice/coaching/film watching. NFL you are unlimited and you are getting paid big bucks to do it. You better be prepared or you are with out a job.
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