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re: I was right aabout the Syracuse game
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:28 am to tiger chaser
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:28 am to tiger chaser
Nonsense. Tigers had won 8 straight, and 11 of 12, in the same cowbell infested venue. Face it, this is a BAD LSU team and the excuses are getting lamer.
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Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:28 am to tigersbb
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I am very much afraid we will lose to: Alabama, Auburn, Florida and Arkansas with Ole Miss and A&M being toss-ups
Outside of Alabama what have these teams shown that would lead you to be so positive they would beat LSU. What have they done that is so impressive?
It isn't what they have done, it is what LSU has (or hasn't) done that is the problem.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:29 am to tiger chaser
quote:If they thought the cowbells were bad, wait until the home crowd in TS gets going when we fall behind in a game.
It's hard to play in that cowbell atmosphere for 20 freshman.
First road game for them. It'll get better
Posted on 9/25/17 at 11:43 am to tiger chaser
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Doby Hard to pass effectively when pass rush is intense... young receivers off on routes. It'll get better.
Its also hard to run when you cant pass. We played freaking Syracuse. Do you think teams like Florida, Auburn, Bama, and UT are going to bother sending more than 3-4 on a pass play? I can tell you for a fact they won't which will make passing that much more difficult. We have to find a way to work on the passing game or else we are just forfeiting the SEC.
Easy to neutralize the pass rush by throwing 5-7 yard slants, outs, and crosses from the shotgun position because those a re high percentage throws and allow the Qb to see both the pass rush and the entire defensive formation. If you can't depend on the offensive line to block don't give the defense line enough time to get up the field. 2 out of 3 pass plays are from under center (sometimes play-action, sometimes 5-7 step drops) and are deep throws that take too long to develop and are low percentage throws. Etling has a poor habit of not making read progressions, part of the reason is pressure and the other is compounded by the complications of the 5-7 step drop.
If the pass rush is killing you, don't line up under center. Make opponents respect your short to intermediate passing game and everything else will fall into place.
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 11:46 am
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:07 pm to Diver
I predicted 35-31. Williams going off.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:13 pm to Diver
Maybe none. Orgeron is good at that.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:26 pm to 1999
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we should win this game. Arkansas is a BAD football team.
The fact that it follows the Alabama game makes me hesitate to chalk this up as a win.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:34 pm to Diver
Congrats?
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:40 pm to Doby
quote:WTF games do you people watch. Etling was pulled for Brennan to work on the QB play under real game conditions.
The fact that we did not use this game to practice the passing game more is so unbelievably stupid and that falls on the coaching staff.
We dropped back to pass 29 times out of 61 offensive plays.
6 of the 32 designed runs were handed to the receiver, not a running back
quote:We averaged 12 yards per completion.
The football philosophy at LSU is antiquated and lacks luster.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:52 pm to Diver
it was just as i knew it would too
Posted on 9/25/17 at 12:54 pm to tigerfoot
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The fact that we did not use this game to practice the passing game more is so unbelievably stupid and that falls on the coaching staff.
WTF games do you people watch. Etling was pulled for Brennan to work on the QB play under real game conditions.
We dropped back to pass 29 times out of 61 offensive plays.
6 of the 32 designed runs were handed to the receiver, not a running back
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The football philosophy at LSU is antiquated and lacks luster.
We averaged 12 yards per completion.
Nail on the head.
In fact our running game probably saved us in this game, considering we had 3 Syracuse players in the backfield every time we dropped back to pass.
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:14 pm to tigerfoot
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We dropped back to pass 29 times out of 61 offensive plays.
Exactly, dropped back. Do you want to drop back and give up a blind side with this offensive line? Or do you want to play in the shotgun and give your QB a shot to feel confident in his throws and confident that he isn't about to get absolutely destroyed?
Also your stats are incorrect: 21 drop backs, 7 plays that resulted in something positive.
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We averaged 12 yards per completion.
We also threw two bombs that if dropped would have taken 140 yards off the stat sheet.
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In fact our running game probably saved us in this game, considering we had 3 Syracuse players in the backfield every time we dropped back to pass
Lol. Greedy Williams says Hi, twice. Honestly though, what a BS cop out. You can either run or pass. If you run the ball a majority of the time I guess it does save you if you arent throwing the ball...
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 9/25/17 at 1:43 pm to Doby
quote:One wasnt a bomb, there was YAC on a little slant, you know, the route everyone here has been asking to see.
We also threw two bombs that if dropped would have taken 140 yards off the stat sheet.
quote:As in designed passes.
Exactly, dropped back
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Do you want to drop back and give up a blind side with this offensive line? Or do you want to play in the shotgun and give your QB a shot to feel confident in his throws and confident that he isn't about to get absolutely destroyed?
We were out of the shotgun 22 of 28 passing plays.
I swear to God. Where did you get this stuff?
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:02 pm to tigerfoot
Sauces?
First it was 29 and now its 22. Which is it?
The fact that you are trying to curb your ridiculous claim about efficiency of the passing offense with this comment is funny, fankly. Like I said, take those two plays away and we barely break 80 yards passing. The issue is clear.
First it was 29 and now its 22. Which is it?
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One wasnt a bomb, there was YAC on a little slant, you know, the route everyone here has been asking to see.
The fact that you are trying to curb your ridiculous claim about efficiency of the passing offense with this comment is funny, fankly. Like I said, take those two plays away and we barely break 80 yards passing. The issue is clear.
This post was edited on 9/25/17 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:14 pm to Doby
quote:Ok, we had 280 yards passing. You accredited 140 to two passes. Now you have it as 200.
The fact that you are trying to curb your ridiculous claim about efficiency of the passing offense with this comment is funny, fankly. Like I said, take those two plays away and we barely break 80 yards passing. The issue is clear.
quote:WTF is wrong with you. 28 attempts, we were in SHOTGUN 22 goddamn times, the shotgun you said we needed to used more of.
First it was 29 and now its 22. Which is it?
I am not sure if one of the QB runs was designed draw or not, so I am going with 28. If you dont know what a draw is, just go with 29.
So, do you agree that we were in the shotgun enough?
Or do you just want to subtract all the good plays.
If you do that can I just imagine that we didnt have two busted coverages, then our D looks better. You know, in make up shite world.Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:19 pm to Doby
quote:Ok are you talking attempted passes now.
Also your stats are incorrect: 21 drop backs, 7 plays that resulted in something positive.
Because we had 28 or 29. You do know that when a QB takes the snap in the shotgun and has to run the ball, that although an attempted pass, it is goes into the stats as a rush.....I am sorry I have to ask, but it is obvious you are clueless.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:22 pm to tigerfoot
I need drop back:shot gun sauces, show up or shut up...
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:22 pm to Doby
quote:What is funny about it?
he fact that you are trying to curb your ridiculous claim about efficiency of the passing offense with this comment is funny, fankly
quote:Ok, what is it. Is the issue that if you take away the good plays we aren't as good? If so, I agree. Or is the issue that you claimed that we were not in the shotgun? Because if that is the issue, well we know you are full of shite.
The issue is clear.
So, please define the issue again.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:41 pm to Doby
I gave them to you retard. 22 times in shotgun.
Posted on 9/25/17 at 2:57 pm to tigersbb
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Outside of Alabama what have these teams shown that would lead you to be so positive they would beat LSU. What have they done that is so impressive?
I only think Auburn is better overall and I have a few reasons why. Auburn's only loss was by 8 points to the #2 team in the country. For half of the year Auburn has been without their #1 RB from last year. They blew out both opponents better than LSU did theirs. Their starting QB Stidham hadn't played a college football game since November 21 of 2015, almost two full years. It's only a matter of time before he finds his groove and LSU is notorious for QBs becoming stars against us.
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The LSU team in a few weeks is likely to be vastly different than the the past two games. There are some injured players who missed games or have just returned from injuries particularly on the defensive line. Assuming they are all available along with Frank Heron the defense will be vastly improves.
Vastly improved is a big stretch, and everybody has injuries. You're acting like LSU will be the only team that could improve. That's called homerism.
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Saturday night there were three freshmen in the defensive backfield at times due to Battle's injury. Sure, their play was inconsistent but with a little more experience the will be more consistent.
Or it could be like 2012 after we lost Mathieu, Claiborne, Taylor, and Brooks, and LSU turned into tissue paper in the secondary.
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The passing game should continue to evolve as the young receivers gain experience.
What? "Continue" to evolve? When did they actually start? All we know is that;
They are afraid to pass over the middle
Chark, Sullivan, and Davis can catch a deep pass
Etling is limited
We've played shite-tastic defenses (especially their secondaries)
LSU is going to get creamed offensively because we decided not to get a modern offensive coach and refuse to start Brennan because Etling is "safe". The OL could improve like 2014, or it could continue to be just as bad like what usually happens to any team that starts the year with OL problems.
We support the team, but it's hard not to be doom and gloom when you realize that we aren't trying everything we can to get better. I have no faith that they'll do what they need to do to get around the bad OL play. The youth and lack of experience on both lines and in the secondary also doesn't give me great hope.
All I can realistically see is 8 wins regular season.
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 8:37 am
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