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re: How obvious has it been for the last 5 or so years of Miles' stubbornness...

Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:37 am to
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:37 am to
That Les ran into similar issues saban had at his time here. Yet Saban is deemed a God and Miles shite.

Why people can't just acknowledge Les was a good coach and the rt hire at the time is ridiculous. No one is saying he should have been retained. But you don't have to shite in his tenure because you didn't like the hire.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 11:39 am
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:39 am to
That's what I thought if you mean ricks facts.. Most of them are exaggerated and amended and I'm not disputing any facts he's disputing reality and any fact he doesn't like and that doesn't fit his biased narrative. He's also blatantly lied about things he's posted and things others have posted .
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:40 am to
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Example


5 different programs have better years
From 2000-2004 and thats just off the top.

Saban's tenure= 16 losses 12 conf losses 2 top 15 finishes 2 10 win seasons = top 5 program

Miles last 5 years= 15 losses 12 conf losses 3 top 15 finishes 3 10 win seasons = not top 5


The above posts are facts you refuse to accept bevause it doesnt support your opinion.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:41 am to
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Most of them are exaggerated and amended and I'm not disputing any facts he's disputing reality and any fact he doesn't like and that doesn't fit his biased narrative. He's also blatantly lied about things he's posted and things others have posted .

.you still have not posted a single fact that supports lsu being a top 5 program. Not single one.

I was wrong about top 5 finishes in 2 decades. I said one it was 2. Oh the horror.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 11:43 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:42 am to
I've never said les was shite and I challenge you to find a post where I did. I've said I hated sabans guts but I also know when LSU rose to the top of the college football world. I've stated we were top 5 from 01 to 07 that includes 3 of miles seasons.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:43 am to
I've posted several multiple times and I'm not gonna do it again just because you're insane. Anyone who reads the thread can see them.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:44 am to
You keep bringing that up and I only mentioned it once psyco. But you have lied about calling miles a top 5 coach and about miles coaching our top 4 offenses.
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:46 am to
quote:

That's what I thought if you mean ricks facts.. Most of them are exaggerated and amended and I'm not disputing any facts he's disputing reality and any fact he doesn't like and that doesn't fit his biased narrative. He's also blatantly lied about things he's posted and things others have posted 



I wouldn't say the sec West was dog shite, I just think it was better during Miles tenure because of Saban. Plus he had Meyer UF teams to contend with. Yeah it's not sabans fault he didn't have to coach against himself, but it's not even comparable imo.


And actually 07 and 11 are in the top 5 of hardest schedules LSU has ever played, 11 being the toughest. None of sabans years are.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46624 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:46 am to
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I've posted several multiple times


bullshite you posted your opinion about the where YOU deemed lsu as a program. Thats it. The reason you havent posted a single one is because there is no facts that prove lsu was a top 5 program in 2004. We had 1 top 5 finish in his entire tenure. You tout that 2001 title as a fact yet that title was still won with 3 losses.


I posted 5 program with better resumes from 2000- 2004. That shouldve ended your argument yet it didn't.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:48 am to
Sorry football is real life and it doesn't exist in paper if that were the case idiots like you could play and coach. There were circumstances that added to 2002 record and 04 circumstances that football ppl recognize but ppl who don't know anything can't. And I'm not sure you can't you just won't because that would go against your biased narrative about Saban/miles. But I'll ask you one more time why doesn't a coach as great as Les Miles have a job right now?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46624 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:48 am to
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wouldn't say the sec West was dog shite,


It was dig shite compared to now. During Saban's entire tenure on 3 west teams ever finished with a top 10 ranking.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68444 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:48 am to
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I've never said les was shite and I challenge you to find a post where I did. I've said I hated sabans guts but I also know when LSU rose to the top of the college football world. I've stated we were top 5 from 01 to 07 that includes 3 of miles seasons.





Yeah I think you were agreeing with Dallas and I just lumped y'all together.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:49 am to
Lmfao the west won 3 out of 4 sec titles 2 teams did this. You're an idiot child who knows nothing about football pre 2007.
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7001 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:49 am to
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Why people can't just acknowledge Les was a good coach and the rt hire at the time is ridiculous.


What was ridiculous was the reason LSU needed to hire Miles over a more competent candidate. Saban still needs his arse kicked by how he handled his leaving of both LSU and Miami. Saban is nothing more than a very talented self centered dickhead.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47649 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:50 am to
Lol no he and I were at odds on one subject I didn't comment in his coach O topic.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 11:51 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47649 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:52 am to
The teams of that era., LSU Auburn Uga Florida Tenn could all win the sec right now vs Alabama and would crush the rest of the current SEC.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46624 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:53 am to
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Sorry football is real life and it doesn't exist in paper if that were the case idiots like you could play and coac


And there it is. You have no facts whatsoever so you fall back on this ignorant shite.
quote:

There were circumstances that added to 2002 record and 04 circumstances that football ppl recognize but ppl who don't know anything can't

These circumstances kept lsu from reaching top 5 status. This is exactly whatbi meant about you posting OPINIONS of why we really were a top 5 program.
quote:

And I'm not sure you can't you just won't because that would go against your biased narrative about Saban/mile


The biased narrative where ive repeatedly said saban was is and alwasy will be a far better coach than miles? The narrative where i said without saban we dont have the great miles tenure? Those narratives?
quote:

But I'll ask you one more time why doesn't a coach as great as Les Miles have a job right now?


What does this have to do with lsu being a top 5 program in 2004?
Also i would love for you to find one post where i said miles is a great coach. Ive always said his tenure was great.


Hey the next time someone posts facts that show 5 different programs having better years than lsu had from 2000-2004 you should just stop trying to say lsu was top 5.
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7001 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:56 am to
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Lol no he and I were at odds on one subject I didn't comment in his coach O topic.




None of us completely agree on anything and that is okay.

I never liked the Miles hire and I have never wavered from it. He was always a buffoon and he went out as one. His playing not to lose way of coaching always rubbed me the wrong way.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 11:57 am
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:56 am to
Ok....... A top 6 program..... you feel better now????
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46624 posts
Posted on 12/8/16 at 11:57 am to
quote:

The teams of that era., LSU Auburn Uga Florida Tenn could all win the sec right now vs Alabama and would crush the rest of the current SEC.



. Hey have great day bro. Ill hit yall up tonight

Youre still my favorite brother.
At least we kept it cordial somewhat this time.

You should stop saying i hate saban. I will always be thankful for what he did for this program. Without saban there is no mile tenure.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 11:58 am
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