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How much better defensively is LSU at with Morgan at 1B?

Posted on 3/4/21 at 1:54 pm
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
43014 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 1:54 pm
Beloso looked lost when he replaced him late in the Southern game. He goes for balls that he has no business going after leaving 1B uncovered.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39617 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 1:56 pm to
Beloso was solid last year. He's not lost. Morgan is definitely the real deal, though.
Posted by lsumeyers
Leesville
Member since Jun 2005
1415 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 1:56 pm to
It’s rare you talk about a first baseman making stellar plays, he’s basically there because he can hit and catch a ball thrown to him...Morgan breaks that mold, he’s a highlight reel at an undervalued position.
Posted by LSUZach011
Member since Jan 2021
318 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

It’s rare you talk about a first baseman making stellar plays, he’s basically there because he can hit and catch a ball thrown to him...Morgan breaks that mold, he’s a highlight reel at an undervalued position.


He probably saves 2-3 errors a game.
Posted by LSUZach011
Member since Jan 2021
318 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:25 pm to
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Beloso looked lost when he replaced him


Beloso is a solid 1B. Morgan is just better and more dynamic. If he looked lost, it was from lack of playing the position for a long time.
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:26 pm to
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Beloso looked lost when he replaced him late in the Southern game.
did we watch a different game?
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
66355 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:27 pm to
imagine how could they would be if they actually threw the ball TO him!
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62497 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:31 pm to
Beloso looked great replacing Morgan. Morgan is the better First baseman, and probably worth a run or 2 a game there, but Beloso did well.
Posted by LifeAquatic
Member since Dec 2019
1795 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:52 pm to
Not nearly as much as you'd think. The gap in defensive value between a good defensive 1B and a bad defensive 1B just isnt that big, even when you're talking about an elite defensive 1B. It's easily the least important defensive position on the diamond.



ETA: for comparison, the gap between the MLB's best defensive 1B and it's worst defensive 1B in 2019 (the last full season) was ~17 runs (over the course of the entire 162g schedule)
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 3:00 pm
Posted by LifeAquatic
Member since Dec 2019
1795 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 2:54 pm to
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Morgan is the better First baseman, and probably worth a run or 2 a game there, but Beloso did well.




The greatest defensive first baseman of all time wouldn't be worth 1-2 runs per game over beloso defensively. That's a ludicrously enormous amount lol


For comparison, in 2019 (the last full season) the gap in defensive value between the best defensive 1B in the MLB (max muncy) and the worst defensive 1B in the MLB (Josh bell) was 17.4 runs (over the course of the entire 162g season).


If beloso was worth negative 1-2 runs per game on defense, that would make him the worst player in all of college baseball by an absolutely massive margin lol
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 3:01 pm
Posted by TigerDM
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1606 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 3:56 pm to
The value of a great versus a marginal defensive first baseman is largely dependent on the arms of the infielders. Back in the day, I looked great at first playing with guys that had accurate throwing arms, but looked bad when I played with guys that threw it all over the place.

It also helps the other infielders knowing they don't have to make a perfect throw or they will probably get an error
Posted by cj35
Member since Jan 2014
6153 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 8:20 pm to
The best thing for LSU is to shut down the baseball program.

Lacrosse is a much better sport.
Posted by Ziggy52
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
198 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 8:47 pm to
Beloso a good 1B. Would start on any other team.
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