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How important was Kiffin sharing Alabama's shadow staff binder on LSU

Posted on 7/26/20 at 9:57 am
Posted by AlwaysPutsSeatDown
Member since May 2008
988 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 9:57 am
to the recent success of LSU's program. My understanding this caused O to get the funds for a shadow staff. What are your thoughts?

As TeamLSU perfectly stated:
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Kiffin shared with Coach O the intimate details of how Bama prepared for LSU. Bama knew more about LSU offense than the LSU coaches did and their tendencies. Kiffin also advised Coach O of the disadvantage he was at in reference to Shawdow Staff. Coach O took that info to the powers that be and now LSU has one of the best Shadow staffs in all of college football.
This post was edited on 7/26/20 at 5:02 pm
Posted by In The Know
City of St George, La
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/26/20 at 9:58 am to
Wut
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9343 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 10:03 am to
WTF is this shite? Saban board>>>>>>>over there
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
9200 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 10:09 am to
All we ever needed was a competent Offensive Scheme that was not predictable in play calling and from formations.

We generally played Bama into the 4th quarter with an inept offensive scheme.

We will see if we can continue that into the future. With our QB recruitment and coaching to execute the scheme
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38231 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 10:11 am to
Don't let the other replies fool you.

It was very important. We were going into games blind before then. They knew every tendency and playcall.

O's mind was blown.
Posted by AlwaysPutsSeatDown
Member since May 2008
988 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 10:14 am to
Supposedly, O saw the detail that Alabama's shadow staff was producing. Supposedly Alabama knew tendencies about LSU that even the LSU staff did not know!!!
This post was edited on 7/26/20 at 10:19 am
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
17161 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 10:22 am to
This all seems baseless. It’s a no brained that LSU just had mediocre QBs and terrible offensive play calling.

Edited to add- we didn’t reinvent the wheel or do anything different, we just finally executed with our talent. Like Kirby said “we do the same thing they just execute better”
This post was edited on 7/26/20 at 11:16 pm
Posted by TriDitty
New Iberia
Member since Aug 2016
1272 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 10:36 am to
It just looked like we would hit a brick wall when we would play them every year. There were even rumors of spying from time to time. Most of this had to be because they had so much more info on us than we had of them.

I think it was huge and will be going forward.

Posted by kennesawlsu
Member since Jan 2013
515 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 10:45 am to
Yep, they figured out our secrets. 1st down-LF/GUICE right. 2nd down-LF/GUICE left, 3rd down-screen to LF/GUICE, 4th down-PUNT and play Def (best strategy).
Posted by JGWS7
Member since Apr 2020
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Posted on 7/26/20 at 10:59 am to
Important enough for Kiffin to share the details. Important enough for O to add that to the program asap. I think bottom line it gives us alot more than a week to prepare for opponents so when we go into game week we aren't starting at zero and adds a wealth of knowledge into gameplanning. Not to mention how blown away O was by how much better prepared they were than we were. Obviously it's a pretty big deal
This post was edited on 7/28/20 at 12:28 pm
Posted by AlwaysPutsSeatDown
Member since May 2008
988 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:01 am to
I believe the "check with me" touchdown over Stingley was a result of Alabama's shadow staff discovering LSU DBs would look at the bench when there was a perceived audible.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:07 am to
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It was very important. We were going into games blind before then. They knew every tendency and playcall.



Yes it took a football brain equal to Belichick to know we were going to run toss dive, short side option, long developing play action pass....

Everyone knew the offense, there were about 7 plays
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
9200 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:09 am to
I think this was something noticed on the field during the game by the coaches or players

If I’m a receiver and I notice the DB looking away for a second or two to the sideline I go back to the huddle or sideline and tell them when he looks away snap the ball and I’m gone.
This post was edited on 7/26/20 at 11:12 am
Posted by hophead
Member since Nov 2007
1971 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:57 am to
I think it was important. I think many people have adopted it now and the field is equaling out
Posted by Rosenblatt
Member since Apr 2019
6294 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 12:04 pm to
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Yes it took a football brain equal to Belichick to know we were going to run toss dive, short side option, long developing play action pass....

Everyone knew the offense, there were about 7 plays


But...the greatest coach in LSU history
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12234 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 12:19 pm to
If you are a receiver and think the entire game revolves around you, maybe this works.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29513 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 12:38 pm to
Elaborate please.

Kiffin shared it with Alabama? Or shared it with LSU?

Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
25713 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 12:40 pm to
After Kiffin left Alabama, he told coach O everything how Bama operates and was looking out for his boy.
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
5332 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 12:48 pm to
Saban put extra extras in preparing for this game- Rivalry, Destination Game, and most importantly Recruiting Advantage if won. Saban said as much a couple years ago that once his team beat LSU , he noticed the fire and hunger drops a notch or two.
Posted by TeamLSU
Member since Feb 2009
3076 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 12:51 pm to
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Elaborate please.

Kiffin shared it with Alabama? Or shared it with LSU?



Kiffin shared with Coach O the intimate details of how Bama prepared for LSU. Bama knew more about LSU offense than the LSU coaches did and their tendencies. Kiffin also advised Coach O of the disadvantage he was at in reference to Shawdow Staff. Coach O took that info to the powers that be and now LSU has one of the best Shadow staffs in all of college football.
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