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re: How hard is it to understand, "Miles' offense" isn't the problem. Having a QB is
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:27 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:27 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
We've been regressing for 4 years. Why has next year been arbitrarily selected as the year that Les has no excuses. He'll still be a nice guy. He'll still be a NC winning coach. He'll still have a winning percentage of 75%+. He'll still be one of the best coaches we've ever had record wise. If not this year, then why next year. So it was mean to fire him after 8 wins this year but it'll be ok next year. What am I missing?
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Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:28 pm to Clockwatcher68
No, he doesn't. His only "if there is a problem" is QB experience. That's the biggest problem. But beyond that. If your QB isn't getting it done, running your star back into a brick wall isn't the answer. There are other ways to get your backs some space to run,but miles doesn't seem to be interested in the
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:28 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Les had plenty of time to bring Harris along... He wasted his freshman year and wasted the first 7 games of this year. Its only so long you can hide your QB.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:29 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Yep, not convinced Harris is the answer...we just don't know yet. Plus, limited options at this point.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:29 pm to Adajax
Exactly. Les 's "one more year" was two years ago.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:29 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Didn't Ohio State finish their season with the 3rd string quarterback? Too bad it didn't work out for them. He could have used some Les Miles coaching.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:29 pm to themunch
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We had seven games to start the season to work on short timing throws that seem so routine among most college football programs. We chose not to.
I agree.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:30 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
So, Miles has to have an NFL qb to have an effective offense!
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:30 pm to el duderino III
I don't think there's this long lost of first time starting QBs that are blowing the doors off college football.
And actually yes, I am saying that. Having a first time starting QB in the SEC rarely works out great. The defenses are too good.
And actually yes, I am saying that. Having a first time starting QB in the SEC rarely works out great. The defenses are too good.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:31 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
How do other teams do at qb compared to LSU? Why is LSU consistently in the bottom 1/3 of passing? The Les Miles offense is broke, but we don't want to be mean spirited so we got him for another 5 years.
Don't you dare mention coaching change next year. It ain't happening. Miles holds all the cards now.
Don't you dare mention coaching change next year. It ain't happening. Miles holds all the cards now.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:33 pm to INFIDEL
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No, he doesn't. His only "if there is a problem" is QB experience. That's the biggest problem. But beyond that. If your QB isn't getting it done, running your star back into a brick wall isn't the answer. There are other ways to get your backs some space to run,but miles doesn't seem to be interested in the
I was talking about Rex. HE made a good point about our failure to work on the short passing during the first 7 games.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:33 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
Miles offense is the problem. If he wants Harris to do well then Les has to build the offense around him. This does not have to take carries away from the run game. It does need to give our QB the chance to make the throws he can make and be taught to make. As a coach, you work toward the strengths of your players.
Look around at all the other universities. They adapt and put in wrinkles based on their players. They do not force something on a player that can't get it.
Look around at all the other universities. They adapt and put in wrinkles based on their players. They do not force something on a player that can't get it.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:34 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
What makes you think we will have the #1 class? We just lost the most important piece to the future of this program
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:35 pm to Choupique19
Because the QBs we have without game experience haven't been developed. When we do, we make championship runs. I just think it's lazy to simply blame everything "on the offense." Because there's been clear examples where it's been extremely productive.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:35 pm to Paluka
I'll add this: at this point Les needs to abandon what he has tried to force on these players. It's more important to have a reliable passing game than something that is not going to be achieved.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:35 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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I don't think there's this long lost of first time starting QBs that are blowing the doors off college football.
Nice straw man. I don't think any reasonable person is expecting LSU (or any school) to produce Johnny Manziels every time they plug in a new starting QB.
However, a 55-60% completion rate with a 2:1 TD to Int ratio isn't that much to ask out a first year starting QB if (big "if" here) they are coached and developed properly.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:37 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
His system is terrible. LSU runs elementary pass routes. If you focus on the receivers you will notice they are rarely open. Their is a reason we can't recruit qb's. We don't develop them. Harris was the #2 dual qb in the country. He would have developed with a more wide open passing game. I can't believe you are blaming this offensive fiasco on the qb. Notice the offensive penalties we have each game. Our off. isn't designed to overcome penalties. We throw an average of 3 passes a game on first down. No qb will have success with 3rd and long. Believe me, it's the system. Each year our offense regresses at the end of the season. Coaches are so good in the sec, they can pick up tendencies. We can only move the ball against teams with less talent. We don't have a plan B against teams who can stop the run.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:37 pm to Choupique19
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Don't you dare mention coaching change next year. It ain't happening. Miles holds all the cards now.
Yep.
Like Beckwith said we are gonna "ride with Les until the wheels come off".
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:37 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
This makes complete sense. It's not miles fault.
It's the dean of students fault for recruiting and developing these players.
It's the dean of students fault for recruiting and developing these players.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:38 pm to Paluka
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Miles offense is the problem. If he wants Harris to do well then Les has to build the offense around him. This does not have to take carries away from the r
So are people who say this conveniently forgetting the Eastern Michigan, South Carolina, Florida games where we clearly threw the ball a ton? I mean Eastern Michigan we threw with so little productivity that didn't they come back within a score in the 3rd? There's been clear instances of them trying to but Harris just wasn't and isn't ready yet.
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