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How does this board look if Harris doesn't overthrow 1 out of every 3 passes?

Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:18 am
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:18 am
1 of 3 may be a stretch, I know. Many of us agree that the offensive philosophy is antiquated, to say the least. It's predicable and unexciting, and clearly doesn't work against November competition, because those teams will not be bullied.

But let's be clear. Harris did this team no favors last month. Maybe that's on Cam which in turn is on Les, but it doesn't change the fact that Harris let's a lot of balls sail. He's left receivers out to dry and when we pass to Fournette twice every 3 games, it's rarely a cleanly thrown ball that hits him in stride.

I'm as frustrated with the offense as anyone. But let's remember what Cam did with Mett from '12-'13. Hopefully we see a similar leap from Harris. If he improves in this one area alone, then we could all be singing a different tune. The philosophy won't change, but Harris can get better. If he can make that leap next year, then look out.

tl; dr glass half full
Posted by ShreveportTiger1987
Shreveport
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:19 am to
In
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:19 am to
quote:

I'm as frustrated with the offense as anyone. But let's remember what Cam did with Mett from '12-'13. Hopefully we see a similar leap from Harris. If he improves in this one area alone, then we could all be singing a different tune. The philosophy won't change, but Harris can get better. If he can make that leap next year, then look out.

tl; dr glass half full


frick it. Pour me a glass.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:20 am to
It's the good stuff
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:20 am to
I remember Mett having trouble on the deep balls, but he always seemed pretty good at those screens. Remember how he would side arm that shovel pass play? I liked how he did that. Got the ball to Hill quick.
Posted by 7Tiger7
Down South
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:21 am to
After his pick, I believe he is now always scared to throw another. Hes thinking too much and throws it high so either his teammate can get it or nobody can. Just needs to settle down and work on his form/footwork. Another offseason should help A TON.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:21 am to
Coupled with a little bit better execution, both from QB and receivers, I'd love to see a scheme similar to Saturday's thought next season. We shall see.
Posted by Mobiletiger
Mobile, AL
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:21 am to
screen pass has him confused as well. It is either a bullet or at their feet. Just get the ball to the RB and let him take off. The only job on the play is to not give it away to soon and throw the ball to the back. You may have to throw over someone now and then but Im sure that is done at practice as well. Sometimes with Brandon I just think it is nerves. Just needs more experience IMO
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:22 am to
I remember a ton of those type throws to Hill. Had some big plays out of nothing. That's frickin' doable with Fournette. Kid has hands. Just need Harris to settle IMO.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70922 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:23 am to
agreed

the philosophy actually works if you have good QB play. If Harris improves we likely don't see run, run, pass, punt nearly as much. We have tried to throw on early downs this year, some.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:24 am to
quote:

Sometimes with Brandon I just think it is nerves. Just needs more experience IMO


Exactly.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:24 am to
Like I always tell my kids and friends.

Familiarity breeds confidence.
Posted by stephendomalley
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:25 am to
our staff can call plays. we might not like them being so conservative, but many is the time that we miss wide open receivers, or just don't see them.

I still blame the coaching staff. we don't practice enough against the cupcakes when mistakes aren't as likely to hurt us.

then when we have to, our qb is too damn nervous to execute.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:25 am to
Honestly other than the goal line wild tiger debacles the play calling was pretty good against Ole Miss as well

Just poor execution on throws and entirely too many destructive penalties
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70922 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:25 am to
And as we all know, the WR did him no favors early on too. The more reps they all have together, the better.
Posted by RileyTime
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Oct 2008
6932 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:25 am to
Having been a QB myself, the biggest thing you can do to a QB is try and force him to be a QB that he is not. I think we are trying to make Harris a pocket passer, and that is not his strength. He isn't accurate enough to sit in the pocket and make every throw, because he cannot make every throw. What Harris needs is to be able to get out of the pocket and make plays by extending the play and allowing his WRs to stretch the field, a lot like he did against Miss State last year when he blew up that 4th quarter.

I am not fast, and I have been put into situations where I had to make plays with my feet and I just wasn't able to. I think that is what we are trying to do with Harris and it is not working like we want. If we want someone to sit in the pocket and make every throw we need to recruit a guy that can do that.

I want to see the OC let Harris go out there and make plays. He doesn't look comfortable out there. I think our offense can really catch fire if we take the handcuffs off.
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 11:37 am
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:26 am to
Mett struggled his JR year hear and dealt with way less drops than Harris did. Harris will improve. The first 7 games he looked WAY better than what he did his freshman year. November rolled around Bama and Arkansas shut down our running game. The oline became soft and were getting penalties left and right. Neither of these things were confidence boosters. Just like Mett in his JR year, Harris has made some beautiful throws in tight coverage. Which shows he has the talent he just needs to improve his accuracy and timing.

BH Sophomore Stats

1,904 yds - 53.2%, 12 TD - 5 INT in 11 games



ZM Junior Stats.

2,609 yds - 58.8%, 12 TD - 7 INT in 13 games.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:26 am to
quote:

And as we all know, the WR did him no favors early on too. The more reps they all have together, the better.



Diarse looks like he has hands that are two feet wide and he can't catch a single fricking pass.

He has been a big disappointment to me on the offense.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70922 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:27 am to
the staff is responsible for fixing those mistakes, of course. They did a pretty good job of fixing them in 2013. I'm gonna put my P&G sunglasses on and assume if Cam keeps his job, he's gonna be focused on Harris.
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8153 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:27 am to
If we connect on more passes, we probably pass more, and the board is a while lot more positive.
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