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How does Lange compare to Big Ben?

Posted on 6/5/15 at 11:47 am
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 11:47 am
For the old timers, how does Lange compare to Big Ben when he was a freshman? Not a regular season comparison but more on the SEC tourny and regional.
Posted by jose canseco
Houston via Houma via BR via NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
5667 posts
Posted on 6/5/15 at 11:55 am to
Old timers? People in their 30's?
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22157 posts
Posted on 6/5/15 at 11:57 am to
He's quite a bit less rapey and they play different sports, but other than that, they both have a strong arm so I can see where you would draw the comparison.
Posted by Filmat11
Anytown USA
Member since Sep 2011
604 posts
Posted on 6/5/15 at 12:08 pm to
Ben played on the basketball team as a freshman, so he didn't join the baseball team until the season was under way. Lange is much more polished than Ben was, but Ben threw harder. Very hard to compare because the game has changed so much. SEC baseball is light years ahead of where it was back in the 80's.

Ben could just overpower hitters, but also had a nasty curve ball. I wasn't sure that we would see a better freshman pitcher than Nola, but we already have one. Doesn't mean that he will be better than Nola was as a soph/junior, but he's had a tremendous year.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 12:17 pm to
We're old Jose. We're old....
Posted by DenverTigerMan
Denver
Member since Nov 2005
2273 posts
Posted on 6/5/15 at 12:24 pm to
Lange's legacy in the playoffs obviously has yet to be written. McDonald was great in the regular season, but didn't share as much success in the postseason. We'll see about Lange soon enough....
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 6/5/15 at 12:35 pm to
Freshman Nola isn't on the same planet as Freshman Lange. That being said, let's see where the next two years take Lange.

Lange overpowers hitters, and also has a nasty curve. Also, his playoff legacy has gotten off to a damn good start.
This post was edited on 6/5/15 at 12:38 pm
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 6/5/15 at 12:37 pm to
Big Ben is a QB for the steelers, so not much in common.
Posted by Noplacelikehome
Member since Oct 2010
2154 posts
Posted on 6/5/15 at 12:41 pm to
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For the old timers, how does Lange compare to Big Ben when he was a freshman? Not a regular season comparison but more on the SEC tourny and regional.


The 80s were a different for pitchers. McDonald threw 200+ pitches in high school games and then pitched more the next day. In college it wasn't that much different... He would start one day and relieve the next but that wasn't until his sophomore season. As a freshman he only pitched 37 innings. But Ben seems to have had more control. He only walked 31 in his first 156 innings (1st 2 seasons)

The game has changed so much -- McDonald was player of the year in 89 with a 3.49 ERA.

Also, like said before, Ben didn't do full time baseball. In high school he played 3 sports and played 2 years on a basketball scholarship at LSU.
This post was edited on 6/5/15 at 12:48 pm
Posted by rilesrick
Member since Mar 2015
6704 posts
Posted on 6/5/15 at 12:44 pm to
Better slider as a freshman. Not as much control as Ben had. Skip used to say Ben threw to many strikes. I think Lange is more accomplished and more mature at this stage. I hope he gets off to a good start in his outing because he's been tough to handle in the mid to late innings.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
47135 posts
Posted on 6/5/15 at 1:28 pm to
Ben threw 98..

Compare Lange with Nola.
Posted by chatuey
Member since Jan 2008
347 posts
Posted on 6/5/15 at 2:09 pm to
I remember in the CWS as a freshman, he came in to pitch in the 9th or 10th after LSU came up with 3 runs on the top of the inning against Stanford. The bases got loaded...seems to me he walked a batter or two but I could be wrong about that...but then he gave up a bases loaded walkoff homer to a pretty good hitter that eventually played in the majors for a few years. The guy was a left handed hitter and the homer was to left field.
Posted by lsutigermall
Plantation Trace
Member since Nov 2006
7301 posts
Posted on 6/5/15 at 2:20 pm to
Ben could hit 100+ mph in college!
Posted by Richard Castle
St. George, La.
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:35 pm to
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Big Ben



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old timers



Posted by Hermit Crab
Under the Sea
Member since Nov 2008
7168 posts
Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:40 pm to
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Old timers? People in their 30's?


would need to be in your late 40s to really remember how good he was as a freshman. Unless you really claim to remember him as a 10 year old.
This post was edited on 6/5/15 at 3:40 pm
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 6/5/15 at 4:22 pm to
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Ben could hit 100+ mph in college


really.

it's funny how the current definition of smokin' it is anybody throwing at 94 or higher. maybe the radar guns are "different" these days.

there are pitchers that have achieved 100mph. josh beckett is the only one I witnessed being consistent with that velocity.
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