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How did we not win a title with this lineup?
Posted on 4/6/12 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 4/6/12 at 4:32 pm
1989-90 Men's Basketball Roster
10 Maurice Williamson G 6-0 172 So. HS New Haven, Conn. (Cross HS)
13 Dennis Tracey G 6-0 177 Jr. 2L New Orleans, La. (de la Salle HS)
21 Lenear Burns F 6-7 215 Fr. HS Angie, La. (Varnado HS)
24 Vernel Singleton F 6-7 212 So. 1L Natchez, Miss. (S. Natchez HS)
32 Harold Boudreaux F 6-9 238 So. HS Arnaudville, La. (Cecilia HS)
33 Shaquille O'Neal C 7-1 286 Fr. HS San Antonio, Texas (Cole HS)
34 Randy Devall G 6-4 192 Jr. 1L Baton Rouge, La. (Lee HS/Garden City CC)
35 Chris Jackson G 6-1 168 So. 2L Gulfport, Miss. (Gulfport HS)
41 Richard Krajewski C 6-9 215 Jr. 1L Grafton, N.D. (Grafton HS)
43 Geert Hammink C 7-0 243 So. 1L Didam, Netherlands )
44 Wayne Sims F 6-7 247 Jr. 2L DeRidder, La. (DeRidder HS)
53 Stanley Roberts C 7-0 288 So. 1L Hopkins, S.C. (Lower Richland HS)
I remember not being able to wait for Wednesday nights and SEC basketball. I was in junior high, I believe. Glory days of LSU basketball. I guess I remember a lot of people putting the blame on Brown for not winning a lot more with this team, but like I said it was so long ago, I can't remember why they could never get over the hump.
10 Maurice Williamson G 6-0 172 So. HS New Haven, Conn. (Cross HS)
13 Dennis Tracey G 6-0 177 Jr. 2L New Orleans, La. (de la Salle HS)
21 Lenear Burns F 6-7 215 Fr. HS Angie, La. (Varnado HS)
24 Vernel Singleton F 6-7 212 So. 1L Natchez, Miss. (S. Natchez HS)
32 Harold Boudreaux F 6-9 238 So. HS Arnaudville, La. (Cecilia HS)
33 Shaquille O'Neal C 7-1 286 Fr. HS San Antonio, Texas (Cole HS)
34 Randy Devall G 6-4 192 Jr. 1L Baton Rouge, La. (Lee HS/Garden City CC)
35 Chris Jackson G 6-1 168 So. 2L Gulfport, Miss. (Gulfport HS)
41 Richard Krajewski C 6-9 215 Jr. 1L Grafton, N.D. (Grafton HS)
43 Geert Hammink C 7-0 243 So. 1L Didam, Netherlands )
44 Wayne Sims F 6-7 247 Jr. 2L DeRidder, La. (DeRidder HS)
53 Stanley Roberts C 7-0 288 So. 1L Hopkins, S.C. (Lower Richland HS)
I remember not being able to wait for Wednesday nights and SEC basketball. I was in junior high, I believe. Glory days of LSU basketball. I guess I remember a lot of people putting the blame on Brown for not winning a lot more with this team, but like I said it was so long ago, I can't remember why they could never get over the hump.
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Posted on 4/6/12 at 4:35 pm to sicboy
i could tell you why but it won't go over too well on this board.
ETA: you mentioned it
ETA: you mentioned it
This post was edited on 4/6/12 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 4/6/12 at 4:36 pm to Choctaw
What I thought. But I guess with recent shortcomings in the program, the past always looks a lot better than it actually was.
Posted on 4/6/12 at 4:37 pm to sicboy
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1989-90 Men's Basketball Roster
Because they lost to a final four bound Georgia tech team that consisted of Kenny Anderson the number 2 pick in the draft Dennis Scott number 4 pick and Brian Oliver who was picked in the second round.
Chris Jackson was great Shaq was young and Stanley had all world potential but was a head case. They came up against a more experienced and talented Georgia tech team. Nothing to be ashamed of. We were very talented but so were they
ETA they also had another 1st round draft choice Malcom Mackey.
This post was edited on 4/6/12 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 4/6/12 at 4:40 pm to Adam Banks
The problem was only getting a 5 seed.
Posted on 4/6/12 at 4:41 pm to sicboy
Daddy Dale was a great recruiter.................
Posted on 4/6/12 at 4:41 pm to Adam Banks
But they had the core of that lineup for a few years, including Clarence Caesar and Jamie Brandon in 91-92. There was a window.
Posted on 4/6/12 at 4:44 pm to Adam Banks
Is it because of that zany dude, Bobby Knight saw when he leaned over and looked at the LSU MBB bench, in the Final 8 at the Rosemount in Chicago, 1987??
I think it was William Buckley Jr, who referred to Nixon's unique syndrone, the "Brinksmanship Syndrone!" Buckley said about Nixon (paraphrase): UNLESS HE IS FACING AN IMPENDING DISASTER, WITH HIS BACK TO THE WALL, HE CANNOT FUNCTION TO HIS OPTIMUM LEVEL.
This flawed and frenetic psychological idiosyncracy, was Dale Brown too. He had to have THE WORLD AGAINST HIM, to function, and that's why he had so many mediocre years, with more than adequate talent.
Bobby Knight also said, with the aforementioned roster, "We would have been illegal!"
The Coaching fraternity thought of Brown, as the ultimate odd duck, and BK understood Brown foibles, and made fun of it.
Posted on 4/6/12 at 4:46 pm to sicboy
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But they had the core of that lineup for a few years, including Clarence Caesar and Jamie Brandon in 91-92. There was a window.
Yeah but the eye popping lineup namely a trio of Chris Jackson Shaq and Stanley roberts was only together for that one year and they ran into a very, arguably equally, talented team in Georgia Tech. We definitely should have gone farther with shaq but sometimes the tourney format screws you. Just like we should have gone farther with thorton but we got screwed with UNC in the second round.
Posted on 4/6/12 at 4:47 pm to Adam Banks
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Because they lost to a final four bound Georgia tech team that consisted of Kenny Anderson the number 2 pick in the draft Dennis Scott number 4 pick and Brian Oliver who was picked in the second round.
True. I remember that game. The Tigers wore them out in the first half. They looked like monsters.
The second half was a different story.
Still, I'd take those days than this slop.
Posted on 4/6/12 at 4:47 pm to sicboy
Shaq was a true freshman and Stanley a redshirt freshman. Had this team stayed together, they would have been amazing.
Posted on 4/6/12 at 4:52 pm to Stevo
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Shaq was a true freshman and Stanley a redshirt freshman. Had this team stayed together, they would have been amazing.
Times were different then. That was a very young team while college basketball had a lot of very experienced players. In this day and time, that team could win a championship.
Posted on 4/6/12 at 4:53 pm to sicboy
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he past always looks a lot better than it actually was.
As for this. You want to know how many Final fours florida has? 4 Syracuse 4. Uconn 4 Arizona 4 NC state 3 Texas 3 Wake forest 1.
You want to know how many LSU has?......4. Same as Cuse. Same as UCONN. Same as Zona. All those are "basketball schools". Hell we have as many FFs as 2 tobacco road schools COMBINED. So pardon me if I think our past was pretty damn good.
This post was edited on 4/6/12 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 4/6/12 at 4:53 pm to sicboy
To me, the pinnacle of that season was the LSU/G-Town game. Truly legendary, despite the tournament loss later. The Loyola Marymount game was also epic for so many reasons.
Tournament success aside, LSU basketball will never be as electric as they were when O'Neal played here. People (not LSU fans) used to follow them around from city to city like the Grateful Dead or something. Backboards were destroyed. Thunder dunks were thrown down. It was bliss.
Still couldn't beat Arkansas, though. Dale. I'm looking in your direction.
Tournament success aside, LSU basketball will never be as electric as they were when O'Neal played here. People (not LSU fans) used to follow them around from city to city like the Grateful Dead or something. Backboards were destroyed. Thunder dunks were thrown down. It was bliss.
Still couldn't beat Arkansas, though. Dale. I'm looking in your direction.
Posted on 4/6/12 at 4:54 pm to Adam Banks
I was referring to the Dale Brown worship.
But you can be mad.
But you can be mad.
Posted on 4/6/12 at 4:55 pm to sicboy
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But you can be mad.
I aint mad. Yous just ignorant.
Posted on 4/6/12 at 4:56 pm to Adam Banks
K.
Posted on 4/6/12 at 4:56 pm to Stevo
This is something I have always said and I stand by it. If you can't win a championship with that team you can't win a championship period.
I lot of people here don't realize it as they might not recognize ALL of the names... maybe before their time or whatever. But that team had more talent than any other college basketball team in history. I would be a ton of money that that team never is equaled in talent.
Maurice Williamson and Vernel Singleton are probably the least remembered of that group, but both we kick arse. Best team ever assembled no doubt.
I lot of people here don't realize it as they might not recognize ALL of the names... maybe before their time or whatever. But that team had more talent than any other college basketball team in history. I would be a ton of money that that team never is equaled in talent.
Maurice Williamson and Vernel Singleton are probably the least remembered of that group, but both we kick arse. Best team ever assembled no doubt.
Posted on 4/6/12 at 4:58 pm to TigerDeacon
Agreed. Most people who ask this question fail to realize this. Most just like to criticize Brown, only to prove their ignorance.
Posted on 4/6/12 at 5:07 pm to omegaman66
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But that team had more talent than any other college basketball team in history. I would be a ton of money that that team never is equaled in talent.
You'd lose.
The 1982 Heels had Jordan, Worthy, AND Sam Perkins. And I'd argue the 1984 team was more talented though less successful... lose Worthy but gain Kenny Smith and Brad Daugherty. There were some loaded teams back then.
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