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re: Hoops: Still bothered about the loss yesterday.
Posted on 11/30/13 at 10:05 am to GeauxGirl20
Posted on 11/30/13 at 10:05 am to GeauxGirl20
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Umass and Memphis are legit teams. Won't kill us. It won't help us but it won't kill us.
These are certainly not bad losses, but outside of Florida, Kentucky and maybe Tennessee not many games left on our schedule that would give us the juice to puncture the bubble.
Winning one of them really would have helped, and we had opportunities to take both.
CJJ's big challenge so far is to find the right mix of who to play when and with whom. He might look back on inserting Quarterman against UMASS down one against and sitting all five starters up 8 yesterday as part of the learning process in that regard.
Hopefully, this will give him the tools to put the right pieces in at the right time to beat one of those SEC teams and get the type of win we'll need to get inside that bubble at years end.
Because I think by March we'll be a tourney quality team.
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Posted on 11/30/13 at 10:28 am to CyrustheVirus
"Because the SEC is so bad that we need wins against possible tourney teams like UMASS and Memphis"
This what most people who don't pay attention to the sport don't realize. Our RPI will be horrible compared to the mid-majors and 6,7th place teams in a real conference. We can win 23-24 games and not get in because we have no quality wins. Def a bubble team going forward.
This what most people who don't pay attention to the sport don't realize. Our RPI will be horrible compared to the mid-majors and 6,7th place teams in a real conference. We can win 23-24 games and not get in because we have no quality wins. Def a bubble team going forward.
Posted on 11/30/13 at 10:29 am to Tiger Ugly
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These are certainly not bad losses, but outside of Florida, Kentucky and maybe Tennessee not many games left on our schedule that would give us the juice to puncture the bubble.
Agreed. The SEC looks weak again this year. Simply going say 12-6 in conference may not be good enough to get in the big dance. Hopefully St. joe's and Butler if we can beat them will do well enough this year to be considered quality wins.
Posted on 11/30/13 at 10:38 am to TigerCub
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The SEC looks weak again this year. Simply going say 12-6 in conference may not be good enough to get in the big dance.
Exactly Cub. Other than Arkansas beating Minnesota, the SEC is winning no meaningfull OOC wins that I've noticed, and even that is marginal.
12-6 in conference won't be enough unless one of those wins are against Kentucky or Florida most likely. And even then we'd be sweating it out without a good SEC tourney win.
I'm glad we've got some talent in here and some excitement and that we're in a position to talk about this.
Just the reality is we've had two big opportunities to help ourselves and could not. Memphis particularly we were really looking good up 8 and then really played poorly and a bit undisciplined down the stretch. We really missed out on an opportunity.
Beating Butler will help, but I don't think as much as a UMASS or Memphis win would.
Posted on 11/30/13 at 10:43 am to Tiger Ugly
Still pissed about the game as we'll. we lost it. I didn't walk away impressed with Memphis.
Posted on 11/30/13 at 10:50 am to LSUzealot
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Still pissed about the game as we'll. we lost it. I didn't walk away impressed with Memphis.
I'm with ya' zealot. We were really whipping them halfway through the second half and just lost our poise.
CJJ mentioned too much settling for jumpbers and not challenging the defense enough and getting to the line.
My perception of Memphis basketball for as long as I can remember is talented players, a bit of a renegade program that play a bit of and undisciplined brand of ball.
Yet in the end they played with poise and intelligence, we had 24 turnovers to their 10 and we let it slip away.
It was a game I came away from feeling more disappointed about a loss that I would have thought I would have been seeing how it played out.
Posted on 11/30/13 at 1:39 pm to TigerCub
[quote]The SEC looks weak again this years/quote]
Might not be quite as weak as you think. Besides UK & UF, being ranked in top 25, Mizzou & Tenn. have received votes. Even A& M got one vote on AP!
Ever the optimist, I'm hoping the SEC pans out to get a bit more respect
Might not be quite as weak as you think. Besides UK & UF, being ranked in top 25, Mizzou & Tenn. have received votes. Even A& M got one vote on AP!
Ever the optimist, I'm hoping the SEC pans out to get a bit more respect
Posted on 11/30/13 at 1:58 pm to Britgirl
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Might not be quite as weak as you think. Besides UK & UF, being ranked in top 25, Mizzou & Tenn. have received votes. Even A& M got one vote on AP!
Kentucky and Fla. have been strong in recent years and that hasn't really helped too much because the rest of the conference keeps crapping their pants even against average OOC opennents (see Auburn losing by nearly 20 at home to Norwhester La.).
I think Tenn will be a potential tourney team but I think Mizzou will begin a slow decline and I ain't buying A&M.
Hope you're right though Brit. But Bama keeps losing OOC games, Vandy lost to Butler ando on and on. The conference is losing almost every opportunity to help themselves when playing decent OOC teams, including us.
We really have to beat Butler. I know they gave Okie St. all they wanted, but I think it's a team we can reasonably expect to beat and quite frankly really need to beat.
Geaux Tigers!!
Posted on 11/30/13 at 2:12 pm to Tiger Ugly
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But Bama keeps losing OOC games
Forgot about them. They're 3 - 3 so far (although one loss was to Duke #6 ranked).
Is Trevor Releford the only decent player they've got?
Posted on 11/30/13 at 2:14 pm to eshorefan
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One word: turnovers
Absolutely killed them...
This
Posted on 11/30/13 at 2:17 pm to Britgirl
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They're 3 - 3 so far (although one loss was to Duke #6 ranked).
Is Trevor Releford the only decent player they've got?
like so many Bama teams over the years, lots of big, athletic guys but not enough skilled offensive players.
Taped the game to watch when I got back from the football game then missed the whole first half because the Duece showed the whole triple OT Bama loss to Drexel.
Posted on 11/30/13 at 2:30 pm to Tiger Ugly
Sounds like Butler is a must win for us to get picked for the tourney. A lost and we are playing the rest of the year for a NIT berth
Posted on 11/30/13 at 2:32 pm to guttata
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The losses against UMass and Memphis are going to kill them come selection time.
Ummm...no
Posted on 11/30/13 at 2:37 pm to Slapouttiger
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Sounds like Butler is a must win for us to get picked for the tourney. A lost and we are playing the rest of the year for a NIT berth
I don't think that this is too overstated. Of course we could upset a Kentucky or Florida or win the SEC Tourney like Ole Miss did last year, but the margin for error was small to begin with and is even smaller now.
Butler is a team I think we can reasonbly expect to beat. Time to win one of these.
Posted on 11/30/13 at 6:00 pm to BigEdLSU
Yeah, I'm trying to get over it too. After suffering through the Trent years, I am so ready for a great season but we look to have some problems. Just really not focusing and making so many turnovers. We obviously had better talent than Memphis but we just didn't get in a rhythm at all. Stringer had an off night shooting also. Martin, Mickey and Quarterman at times played like the freshmen that they are. On the upside we still had a five point lead for a large portion of the game despite it all. Only to have it all fall apart there at the end. We need leadership and some steadying influence on the freshmen.
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