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re: Here is Hurt's Intentional Grounding
Posted on 11/7/16 at 7:41 pm to Tiger in NY
Posted on 11/7/16 at 7:41 pm to Tiger in NY
No. RT lined up to right of upright and he releases it a yard inside said upright. Clear as day
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 7:46 pm to VT4
So does the thrower have to be completely outside the "tackle box" (BTW; according to the rule quoted this is a misleading term) or release point or any part of his body?
Posted on 11/7/16 at 7:48 pm to Mulerider
It's really close. I going crazy when the didn't call it in the stadium though 
Posted on 11/7/16 at 7:56 pm to SadSouthernBuck
I came here to ask if anyone here actually knows the rules. The "tackle box" in no way shape or form has anything to do with the physical tackle on the field. lol
Posted on 11/7/16 at 7:58 pm to BayouBengals03
No, go pick up a rule book. THE tackle box has nothing to do with the RT. It's a simple fact that all but one other poster here is wrong about the rule.
quote:
RULE 2 / definitions FR-43
SECTION 34. Tackle Box
ARTICLE 1. a. The tackle box is the rectangular area enclosed by the
neutral zone, the two lines parallel to the sidelines five yards from the
snapper, and Team A’s end line. (See Appendix C.)
b. The tackle box disintegrates when the ball leaves it.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 11/7/16 at 8:00 pm to Catman88
The definition of tackle box is on the previous page. It is 5 yards either way from the snapper.
This is the definition of intentional grounding: The passer to conserve yardage throws the ball forward into an area where there is no eligible Team A receiver (A.R. 7-3-2-I).
The picture earlier showed he was inside the tackle box. When the ball was let go an LSU player had beaten his block and had a clear path to the QB. I am not sure how this is not intentional grounding.
This is the definition of intentional grounding: The passer to conserve yardage throws the ball forward into an area where there is no eligible Team A receiver (A.R. 7-3-2-I).
The picture earlier showed he was inside the tackle box. When the ball was let go an LSU player had beaten his block and had a clear path to the QB. I am not sure how this is not intentional grounding.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 8:03 pm to Macavity92
Based on the very definition of he rule this is pretty clear definition of intenational grounding. I'm not really sure what the argument against it is based on.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 8:04 pm to Macavity92
quote:
I am not sure how this is not intentional grounding.
That crew was not good.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 8:10 pm to Catman88
quote:
Based on the very definition of he rule this is pretty clear definition of intenational grounding
Exact opposite, actually
The tackle clearly lined up inside the upright
The tackle box is in effect until the ball leaves it. When Hurt released the ball, the view of his hand is blocked by the upright, which means the ball was outside the tackle box when he released it
Also, using your logic, every ball intentionally thrown out of bounds would be intentional grounding. Since there is no way a WR could possibly be in that area
Posted on 11/7/16 at 8:14 pm to RobbBobb
quote:
The tackle clearly lined up inside the upright
Read the rule, posted earlier in this thread. The tackle box is 5 yards to either side of the center. He was inside of that when he released it. This was intentional grounding.
ETA: 5 yards to either side of the center at the time the ball is snapped.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 11/7/16 at 8:16 pm to mrbroker
I'm aware. And he's still not outside the tackle box.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 8:18 pm to Macavity92
It was close, I will say that. I dont know the ruling on reviews for IG, but if reviewed, it should have been called.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 8:21 pm to RobbBobb
Please go read the rule. It's pretty obvious it was grounding when you know the actual rule.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 8:23 pm to RobbBobb
Omfg real the fricking rule before spouting off more ignorance
Posted on 11/7/16 at 8:31 pm to Catman88
Yeah it's pretty ridiculous people are still trying to spout bullshite about the tackle box while the definition is in the thread.
Why do some of our fans seem to not want that to be grounding? It fricking was, and was a huge play in the game. I see that get called more often than not.
Why do some of our fans seem to not want that to be grounding? It fricking was, and was a huge play in the game. I see that get called more often than not.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 8:32 pm to RobbBobb
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The tackle box is in effect until the ball leaves it. When Hurt released the ball, the view of his hand is blocked by the upright, which means the ball was outside the tackle box when he released it
Posted on 11/7/16 at 8:35 pm to biglego
Etling's ball never crossed the LOS, therefore, it was intentional grounding...
Posted on 11/7/16 at 8:58 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
#73 is sliding out. Its not where the tackle is, its where they start. This was not a bad call, IMO, and I have been very vocal about how awful the refs were.
ETA: I see the rule, but they NEVER call it based on 5 yards from the center. If they are going to follow the letter of the lW, always, then fine. They dont though and we wouldve screamed bloody murder about getting that call against us.
ETA: I see the rule, but they NEVER call it based on 5 yards from the center. If they are going to follow the letter of the lW, always, then fine. They dont though and we wouldve screamed bloody murder about getting that call against us.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:04 pm to Tiger in NY
quote:
He rolls outside the tackle box genius.
no
Posted on 11/7/16 at 9:11 pm to Tiger in NY
So spread offenses have a built in disadvantage in the grounding rule due to their choice of splits on the line?
I'm fairly sure most officials know the rule has nothing to do with the position of the tackles
I'm fairly sure most officials know the rule has nothing to do with the position of the tackles
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