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re: Hannigrif says Orgeron made Canada makes changes by game 3.

Posted on 5/28/19 at 5:07 pm to
Posted by Folsom
Folsom
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 5:07 pm to
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It is still funny seeing O die hards blame Canada


Btw how’s Canada doing now days??
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 5:07 pm to
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Matt Canada


Who is that? Who cares who that is?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 5:38 pm to
I don't know how many times I can say it. I didn't remember anyone saying that Orgeron told him that he couldn't run 4 wides, couldn't run the QB and couldn't run up tempo. That's why I asked if anyone had any insight into this.

If these things are indeed true, then it seems pretty damn relevant to me because whose to say that Orgeron won't revert back to these same habits when the shite hits the fan in 2019 because it happens to every team at one point or another during the season.
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 5:39 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 5:44 pm to
O Man Bad?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48407 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 5:48 pm to
And there it is, the daily “if you think Oregeron did something that isn’t perfect you hate him” comment from the Cheerios. Lol it never fails.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 5:48 pm to
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passing numbers weren’t going up.


So, that was it? His entire offense was installed in year 1, game 1?

If so, I found it interesting, but one-dimensional. I suspect he had more pass plays designed to open up the defense a little more for the run for year 2, but I don't have anything to support that. I don't mind a run first offense, as long as you can get 1st downs.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 5:50 pm to
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 5:50 pm to
Regardless of what Orgeron did or didn't do, Canada had a garbage gimmick scheme that wouldn't work in the SEC and I'm glad he's gone. The only reason people will defend him is because if a deep hatred of Ed.
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 5:51 pm to
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the O hire is turning into being a home run..if he wins 10 this year.



What
The
frick
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48407 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 5:53 pm to
But the passing numbers did go up quite a bit actually.

Yards per game
2016- 190.1
2017- 203.5

Passer rating
2016- 135.6
2017- 153.0 (3rd highest in LSU history)

Yards per attempt
2016- 7.9
2017- 9.0

Pass TDs
2016- 12
2017- 17

We also set the school record for 40+ yard pass plays under Matt Canada and we broke the old record in week 9.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 5:53 pm to
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O Man Bad?

On the contrary I have a hard time believing he put that much restrictions on him as I've said several times. I'm attempting to get some sort of insight here on if this actually happened.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48407 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 5:54 pm to
That isn’t true and the numbers prove it and that isn’t why and there’s no proof to support that accusation. Orgeron did the same thing last season with Ensminger at OC so your accusation simply has no basis.
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 5:56 pm
Posted by terriblegreen
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Member since Aug 2011
9713 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 5:56 pm to
The Canada hire was pushed on Orgeron. It was part of his hiring process to get that kind of guy. LSU didn’t have enough personnel to be successful with Canada’s approach at that time. Orgeron did the right thing at the time.

If you are questioning Orgeron’s steady improvement to this point, then he will never impress you.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
32188 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 5:57 pm to
Why the heck did this come up today?

Unnecessarily divisive IMO.

The Canada era is over. It is a red flag on the orgeron resume but last season made up for it. No reason to not let the sleeping dog lie. If it’s after game 5 and we are 3-2 with a terrible offense then this is a legitimate subject.

Otherwise it’s screams cowherd/finebaum trolling to up call ins.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 5:58 pm to


quote:

I'm attempting to get some sort of insight here on if this actually happened.


Um... K
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93940 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 5:59 pm to
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If you are questioning Orgeron’s steady improvement to this point, then he will never impress you.

If you can find some evidence of this, I would love to see it.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77649 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 5:59 pm to
The adjustments they made last year was due to problems in protection and EVERYONE admitted to that. What they wanted to run wasn't going to happen with that offensive line.

And I'll remind everyone AGAIN, Canada had a history of rubbing the people he worked with the wrong way. He simply didn't belong here, especially since he was forced on them by Alleva.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 5/28/19 at 6:01 pm to
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And I'll remind everyone AGAIN, Canada had a history of rubbing the people he worked with the wrong way. He simply didn't belong here, especially since he was forced on them by Alleva

Poor Ole O just can’t catch a break!
Posted by Marrero Tigah
Member since Mar 2019
225 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 6:01 pm to
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If you are questioning Orgeron’s steady improvement to this point, then he will never impress you.


He lost 3 conference games last year. Big improvement.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48407 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 6:04 pm to
No he doesn’t and I’d challenge you to find any examples of that. The only time this narrative came about was after Orgeron instructed his minions in the Baton Rouge media to smear Canada once he had signed and NDA and couldn’t respond or fight back. You won’t find any other instances of Canada being a problem anywhere and you even had other coaches publicly shaming Ed Orgeron for that smear campaign he used to attack Canada last summer.
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 6:06 pm
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