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Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:29 pm to ShermanTxTiger
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Zero and the binders got the job, in part, because he promised Lane Kiffin was coming as OC. I am pretty sure that was a head fake despite the fact Kiffin claims it was true. Anyway, Zero was pressured to find another Kiffin type OC that wasn't ground and pound. He hired Canada. I think it was a good hire on paper. You could tell by the Miss St game our O Line was terrible. I believe with a capable O line it would have been successful. Most forget Canada was Zero's only OC to score points against Bama.
Mother of god, I hope you’re not an adult
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:30 pm to dgnx6
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It was a dumb hire. I don't know if it was pushed on Orgeron, but they clearly didn't share the same vision on offense.
The entire hire was because of the Binder. Coach O had to say he was breathing new life into the offense.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:31 pm to TigerLunatik
It’s amazing how much things change in one year. All those things seem true, which is why there were so many O critics after he handcuffed and interfered when he said he wouldn’t. Now he went 10-3 and everyone forgot everything from 2017
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:33 pm to TigerLunatik
quote:how much jail time we talking here for a head coach to tell a coordinator what to do?
That's a really serious allegation
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:35 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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So, where does the fault lie for hiring Canada in the first place? If all you said is true.
On Orgeron 100 percent. He made a mistake. He recognized his mistake and fixed it.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:36 pm to TigerLunatik
Seems to me a HEAD coach should be able to tell anyone on his staff what to do. Where is the problem?
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:37 pm to geauxtigers33
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On Orgeron 100 percent. He made a mistake. He recognized his mistake and fixed it.
I agree with that. The only problem I have is people who try to claim that Orgeron deserves zero blame for the hire.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:38 pm to drexyl
Oh don't be silly with the jail talk. A coach that comes in saying that he's gonna let his coaches coach and then comes in 3 games into season 1 and makes that many significant changes is a big deal IMO. If all of that was common knowledge then I apologize for making a pointless thread. I will repeat that my memory is shite and I only remember the shifts being changed.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:40 pm to TigerLunatik
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Charles Hannigrif just said on Sports Today in Baton Rouge that there was off-season hype around Matt Canada's offense and that by game 3 Orgeron told him no more 4 wide sets, stop running the quarterback and no more up tempo. Anyone have any insight on this? That's a really serious allegation and if untrue I have a pretty big issue with a BR host radio saying something like that (again if it's not true).
I mean I deduced as much.
Troy was not an isolated case. It was symptomatic, a result of how the HC had ordered Canada to alter his scheme.
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:40 pm to TigerLunatik
This topic has been discussed to death.
However, it's doesn't take a football savant to figure out SOMETHING happened after the Miss. St. game.
LSU was beaten in that game 37-7. The worst loss to Miss St. in roughly 100 meetings. The fanbase was already lukewarm, at best, on Orgeron going into the season. He was smart enough to know that after that historic arse kicking he lost much of what little support he had going into the season.
Two games later vs. Troy, the LSU offense didn't resemble the "Canada offense" all that much. Another historic loss followed. The next week at Florida the offense looked more like the "Canada offense" again.
With that, only two conclusions can be reached. (1) Canada decided LSU couldn't execute his offense and stopped running it for two games after the MSU game OR (2) Orgeron reigned it in until the loss to Troy forced him to accept what Canada was doing (at least for one season)
However, it's doesn't take a football savant to figure out SOMETHING happened after the Miss. St. game.
LSU was beaten in that game 37-7. The worst loss to Miss St. in roughly 100 meetings. The fanbase was already lukewarm, at best, on Orgeron going into the season. He was smart enough to know that after that historic arse kicking he lost much of what little support he had going into the season.
Two games later vs. Troy, the LSU offense didn't resemble the "Canada offense" all that much. Another historic loss followed. The next week at Florida the offense looked more like the "Canada offense" again.
With that, only two conclusions can be reached. (1) Canada decided LSU couldn't execute his offense and stopped running it for two games after the MSU game OR (2) Orgeron reigned it in until the loss to Troy forced him to accept what Canada was doing (at least for one season)
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:42 pm to TigerLunatik
WHY WOULD ANYONE GIVE A FLYING frick ABOUT THIS shite ANY MORE.
It's over. DONE.
The fate of Orgeron and the program lie with the current staff.
frick, give it a rest.
It's over. DONE.
The fate of Orgeron and the program lie with the current staff.
frick, give it a rest.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:43 pm to TigerLunatik
O realized they wasted a bunch of time and effort making the OL learn how to do all of those stupid shifts instead of actually developing OL skills.
Problem was, the train was already on the tracks and O’s strong reaction lost us the Troy game. The offense was designed around deception and when we tried to play straight up we got our asses kicked by a feisty Troy team.
Problem was, the train was already on the tracks and O’s strong reaction lost us the Troy game. The offense was designed around deception and when we tried to play straight up we got our asses kicked by a feisty Troy team.
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:43 pm to Alt26
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(2) Orgeron reigned it in until the loss to Troy forced him to accept what Canada was doing (at least for one season)
Bingo.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:45 pm to TigerLunatik
Seems like a slow day in news.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:46 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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WHY WOULD ANYONE GIVE A FLYING frick ABOUT THIS shite ANY MORE.
Nobody held a gun to your head and made you open this thread. You're more than welcome to take a hike.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:47 pm to tigersquad89
I think it was more of an issue of personnel at the time.
You still had Fournette in the backfield, why wouldn't you just hand it off in certain situations
You still had Fournette in the backfield, why wouldn't you just hand it off in certain situations
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:48 pm to TigerLunatik
Like him or hate him and his offense, it still scored our only 10 points in our last three meetings with Bama.
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:50 pm to nicholastiger
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You still had Fournette in the backfield.
In 2017?
Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:55 pm to Bottom9
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It is still funny seeing O die hards blame Canada for our issues as a whole in 2017. If Canada was the issue then why the hell did we pay him all that money to GTFO?
And to think ever since we fired him Canada’s been tearing it up!!!
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