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re: Great Point by Hannigriff and Risher
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:58 am to Choupique19
Posted on 11/19/15 at 9:58 am to Choupique19
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THIS comment hits the nail on the head. Why can't more people understand this??? The season is doomed from the start by how they choose to play these early games. They should have been getting Harris and the line a lot more reps, even when they felt they didn't need to.
It's "doomed" because of how the practice time is split up. A team will be good at what is focused on in practice, and in the games. It was obvious to all that were watching last Saturday that LSU just hasn't put in much practice time in the 3 and 4 wide receiver, shotgun sets. The disorganization for several series was obvious.
I think you can bet the house that LSU will come out Saturday and run a ton of I formation sets and try to run the ball right at the Ole Miss defense. Why? Because that is who Les Miles is, and that is what he focuses on from Spring practice to the season.
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Posted on 11/19/15 at 10:06 am to Hugo Stiglitz
No offense but you and I have been watching two different offenses over the last two weeks. Completely out coached. You can't tell me that our OL went from really good to bottom of the league overnught . truth is they haven't stood a prayer against the last two D's that were prepared to stop what LSU does best. Its made the entire team led focused and almost as if they are saying "what's the point".
But I agree...you won't get a good oc with les likely gone after next year. I can't say I feel sorry for Dupree because he will get paid anyway...but I do feel sorry for lf. fricking bama rb gonna win the heisman and he couldn't carry lf's jock.
But I agree...you won't get a good oc with les likely gone after next year. I can't say I feel sorry for Dupree because he will get paid anyway...but I do feel sorry for lf. fricking bama rb gonna win the heisman and he couldn't carry lf's jock.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 11:52 am to PortCityTiger82
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You're all arguing semantics again. Okay - one game out of the last 50 we come in with a pass first scheme - big deal. The point is when are coaches responsible for a failing performance. More often than not since 2008 - the pass O at LSU has been ranked lower than 90th in the nation for the year. Anyone who thinks that is good is delusional
well i think this speaks to the point that another poster made about the staff overreacting to the bama loss by trying something radically different vs arky.
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This. You can't just expect these guys to come out and throw the ball all over the place successfully when you've been handcuffing them all year long. We should've been throwing the ball a lot early in the season against the easier part of our schedule but we didn't. Instead we rarely even went over 100 yards passing in most games.
Well, LSU could have done that, had it actually blown some of its cupcakes out. a 7 point game in the 4th vs 'Cuse , and one possession leads vs WKU and E Mich in the 2nd half means LSU has to run its "boring" offense.
But yes, I agree, if Harris wasnt only throwing 14 passes vs E Michigan, maybe he wouldnt look lost vs arkansas.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 12:03 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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You can't tell me that our OL went from really good to bottom of the league overnught . truth is they haven't stood a prayer against the last two D's that were prepared to stop what LSU does best.
When your best option at LT is playing center and your best option at G is playing RT, you tend to have o-line issues against fast and physical fronts.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 12:04 pm to cheo25
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Big Ten run-first, run-second, pass-third mentality.
I'm not saying that I'm happy with the product on the field, but you know that roughly 2 passes were called for every run called last Saturday, right?
Things can be worked on, but to pretend there hasn't been extraordinary effort to balance things out is just biased. Play calling was roughly balanced against Bama and 2:1 passing against Arkansas.
Now, he only hit 6 against Bama and averaged over 21 yards per completion. It wasn't a disastrous YPA, but barely 6 and change. We were running for zero, though.
Against Arky, we got more than 8 yards per pass attempt (of course that doesn't count the sacks). Running (without the sacks, of course) was somewhat better than against Bama, but not nearly what we did the first 7 games.
The more I look at this, the more I'm thinking it is the OL - just a collapse - the injuries piled up and hit us all at once - or something. We suddenly got terrible at run blocking - we were already suspect in pass blocking, and that regressed. Harris started getting sacked, even though his best career passing game was against Arkansas.
Something's not adding up when you look at the bare facts. Objectively we ran the ball "well enough", combined with 270 yards of passing against Arky to score more than 14 points - more in the 24 range (which still would have lost, mind you). We scored more points against Bama on about 1/3 of that offensive production. The only thing that moderates that some is the net rushing against Arky is hit pretty badly by the sack yardage.
So, what's missing on offense? Blocking. Which looked great through the first 7 games (again, with pass blocking being sketchy at times, but appeared to be improving in games 6 and 7).
This post was edited on 11/19/15 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 11/19/15 at 12:08 pm to Ace Midnight
blocking is a big problem. jeter can't block for shite. we should start weathersby at blocking te. he is no worst than jeter and it would prepare another ol for next year.
Posted on 11/19/15 at 12:12 pm to The Cool No 9
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I don't know man, what is it that he's doing that's so great as it is?
I truly believe we havent even seen half of Cameron's true playbook. There are certain limitations in place of that.
This post was edited on 11/19/15 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 11/19/15 at 12:19 pm to dnm3305
McElwain said Saban is an awesome coach to work for. He gives his assistants parameters in which to work from and lets them do their jobs.
I guess Les kind of does the same, except Miles' parameters don't work against equal opponents. I guess you can't blame Cam for taking 1.5 per year to be a "yes man".
I guess Les kind of does the same, except Miles' parameters don't work against equal opponents. I guess you can't blame Cam for taking 1.5 per year to be a "yes man".
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