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re: Get used to players leaving!
Posted on 11/28/13 at 4:03 pm to lsu2006
Posted on 11/28/13 at 4:03 pm to lsu2006
My only gripe is that the scholarship is contract to the university. Before you say that's stupid, I kind of agree because the school can process a player right off the team. I understand the school makes so much money off the player that it isn't fair but oh well it is an amateur sport. The issue really is where the school is left after grooming a young man to develop skills to win a championship but he leaves early usually waiting until the very last minute to let the school know thus putting the school at a disadvantage of a talent gap. My suggestion would be for the player to have to pay back his year of eligibility if he signed a contract by opening day. If he indeed makes the 400K a year then he can afford to repay the school for the loss of commitment. This would only be required if the player didn't notify the team by the start of the season. If he committed to leaving (barring injury) early enough for the coaches to recruit a replacement and give needed playing time where required to groom the next man up. This would alleviate any guessing. Biggest complaint by the player making the early decision would be that he might lose playing time because the coaches are pissed he is leaving and want to let a younger player play.
Posted on 11/28/13 at 4:03 pm to burke985
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if you get drafted late your playing for chump change. most of the guys that leave early dont make it big
This is so far from the truth. League minimum is 300k. Not chump change when you come from living off welfare for 17-18 years of your life. Not to mention bennie logan got drfated in the 3rd round and is making around 470k. An udrafted player makes close to that. Its all about that second contract. You stay in college, youre one year further from that contract, plus you miss out on atleast 300k by staying in college. I mean seriously, you think general studies or turf managemant degree is worth forgoing 300k? no.
ID bet more people who stay 4-5 years dont make it big than guys that stay 3. Since there are probably more players that stay 4-5 years that dont even make a team every year. the amount of time you play in college has no bearing on whether you are a future nfl hof or not.
This post was edited on 11/28/13 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 11/28/13 at 4:06 pm to GeauxJeaux
Players leave early every single year. Who isn't fricking used to it?
Posted on 11/28/13 at 4:09 pm to GeauxJeaux
Just wait... Only a matter of time till some lawyer finds a client willing to sue over the three year rule. NFL will be signing kids after 0, 1 or 2 years based on potential. Greed wins all around.
Posted on 11/28/13 at 4:14 pm to highTiger
they should just make it 4. Injuries happen, but plenty of players also go through college without major injuries and go on to have great nfl careers. In fact they should make the scholly a binding contract for at least 4 years, not year to year. Now the player can still transfer. Also the school can still release a player for breaking team and university rules. You could easily put something in there saying the player has to maintain his body so you can get rid of the chris garrets of the world if a player decides to be fat and lazy. But you cant process them just for not being good enough, you recruited and coached the kid, you are stuck with him.
Posted on 11/28/13 at 5:26 pm to dgnx6
Since when is 300 k a year chump change for anybody?
Posted on 11/28/13 at 6:56 pm to GeauxJeaux
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I am in the Army
Good for you, you're probably a pog.
This post was edited on 11/28/13 at 6:57 pm
Posted on 11/28/13 at 7:22 pm to GeauxJeaux
You called Welter a [joke] in your comments. He's a Tiger and will be till his ripe old age. Remarks like this makes me want to puke. Are you a better football player than him? Why can't you people keep your hurtful remarks to yourself and leave this kid alone. And why was wasn't this thread Whacked.
This post was edited on 11/28/13 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 11/28/13 at 7:27 pm to Brazos
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Brazos Get used to players leaving! Since when is 300 k a year chump change for anybody?
Getting drafted does not guarantee 300k Unless you make the final 53 man roster. If you don't make the 53 and are put on the practice squad you make around 60k or so. That's where early entry guys that are drafted between rounds 5-7 or free agents have to think and decide whether they can improve stock some by returning.
Posted on 11/28/13 at 11:28 pm to GeauxJeaux
Not sure why all the hate is being spewed because I have an opinion, but when I originally posted this, the rant and most boards were full of this speculation. I think all that are reasonably high rated in the draft will go. Why wouldn't they? It's not a bad thing, it is the way it is. Sorry if it's not what you want to hear but expect it.
Posted on 11/28/13 at 11:54 pm to GeauxJeaux
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They are ALL gone! The NFL is the ultimate goal. MONEY baby!
Then why players like Andrew Luck who was #1 draft choice as junior didn't leave? Also, according to your mentality any student who can get a job after his BS degree should take it and not even think about MS or Ph.D.
There is more to that decision for the players if they are wise than just have access to some cash right now.
Posted on 11/29/13 at 12:14 am to CalTiger53
Here's exactly why more and more juniors will continue to leave early. For each of the last 3 years there has been record number of juniors enter the draft for one reason:
Ever since the new NFL CBA, rookie contracts have been significantly reduced. It used to be that the difference between a 2nd round pick and a 6th round pick was millions. Difference between early 1st and late 1st was 10s of millions. Nowadays it's ridiculously less. As someone mentioned early, Bennie Logan went in early 3rd and signed for about 700-800k while Ford went undrafted and signed for 450k. And while 300k is A lot of money, it is NOT worth the risk of suffering a bad injury and ending your NFL future. Especially when many of these players do not have the best of chances getting jobs in whatever their majors are. Heck, half their majors are stupid anyway and won't earn them much money.
Ever since the new NFL CBA, rookie contracts have been significantly reduced. It used to be that the difference between a 2nd round pick and a 6th round pick was millions. Difference between early 1st and late 1st was 10s of millions. Nowadays it's ridiculously less. As someone mentioned early, Bennie Logan went in early 3rd and signed for about 700-800k while Ford went undrafted and signed for 450k. And while 300k is A lot of money, it is NOT worth the risk of suffering a bad injury and ending your NFL future. Especially when many of these players do not have the best of chances getting jobs in whatever their majors are. Heck, half their majors are stupid anyway and won't earn them much money.
Posted on 11/29/13 at 2:30 am to GeauxPack81
Takes me about 5 years to make 300k so far from chump change. And players used to stay when heard they were expected to drafted in 6th rd so they could hold out hope of improving and moving to second rd for big money. As was already stated it's not that big of a difference anymore so no reason to stay the key is get foot in the door then hopefully stick around and make solid money for a few years if you don't make it to a second contract. If a college really looked out for their players they should all take classes in accounting, management, and business to better understand how to take care of their money in case their career like most NFL careers are cut short for whatever reason. Just my opinion but if any of my children ever have a chance to make that kind of money I tell them to go in a heartbeat and if doesn't workout either go to back to school or hit the work force like most adults.
Posted on 11/29/13 at 2:50 am to Politiceaux
quote:sure they do ....look at baseball it's not the MLB that requires them to stay with a team 3 years or turn 21 before a certain date if they sign with a school it's NCAA rule ....and IMO football should adopt this same rule ....and so should basketball ....
The NCAA has nothing to do with when the players can get drafted.
This post was edited on 11/29/13 at 2:54 am
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