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Posted on 9/20/16 at 9:52 am to TheHat7
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But he deserves a chance to turn it around
I agree but I also agree he's got this year to do it. i'm sorry it came to that but a lot of it is his own fault.
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We have the talent to best anyone in the sec
IF, and that's a big if, this team gels before losing a coupla more games the team does have the talent to win a lot. we're 3 games in and the team has mostly "cleaned up" it's incompetence in several areas but still not hitting on enough cylinders to be good enough to beat a number of teams on our schedule.
this team needs the discipline to not have costly penalties, drops and fumbles. they can't win by getting shut out in the second half.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 9:54 am to wryder1
" if he is too stubborn......"
The most overused and wrong description of miles that is continually spewed on this forum.
LSU it's on like it's fourth offense of coordinator in the last five years. We are on our third DC in the last three years. We are on our third starting quarterback in the last 2 yrs and three years games when all three still have college eligibility. We just threw the ball 32 times when we had the lead from the get go. None of that fits any type of stubborn that I'm aware of.
Stubborn would be an unwillingness to change out assistant coaches or change out starting quarterbacks. We threw the ball last week 32 times even with a 1st quarter, whole game lead. Stubborn would be throwning the ball 6-10 times after we had acquired a 7?point lead.
The most overused and wrong description of miles that is continually spewed on this forum.
LSU it's on like it's fourth offense of coordinator in the last five years. We are on our third DC in the last three years. We are on our third starting quarterback in the last 2 yrs and three years games when all three still have college eligibility. We just threw the ball 32 times when we had the lead from the get go. None of that fits any type of stubborn that I'm aware of.
Stubborn would be an unwillingness to change out assistant coaches or change out starting quarterbacks. We threw the ball last week 32 times even with a 1st quarter, whole game lead. Stubborn would be throwning the ball 6-10 times after we had acquired a 7?point lead.
This post was edited on 9/20/16 at 9:55 am
Posted on 9/20/16 at 10:37 am to AtlantaLSUfan
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OP is right about one thing, we need to support this coach at least until end of the season.
That may be part of the reason he's still here after people took that approach last season.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 10:38 am to TheHat7
I'm bumping the hell out of this next Sunday if we lose.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 10:44 am to TheHat7
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he deserves a chance to turn it around
That's what 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2016 were for. How many chances does he "deserve"?
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If we lose 3-4 maybe it's time to retire
I hope he will be that gracious about it, but we will likely find out.
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but if we win 10-11 he may have some left in the tank
10-11 in the regular season? Or with a mid-tier bowl win and a finish around 15th or so in the final polls? 10-2 or 11-1 in the regular season would probably be enough for him to keep his job. 9-3 and then winning a Florida bowl may not.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 10:51 am to TheHat7
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Miles has frustrated many of us over the years but overall he's been a great coach. Last several years we've been on a down slide. In the sec that's not acceptable. I get it. But he deserves a chance to turn it around. The players deserve us to get behind them and the coaches. We've got another lights out recruiting class this time with a super talented qb who will fit in a pro system to follow etling. Cameron went and got danny because he knew Harris may not be the answer. Etling will allow cam to open things up and if the offense keeps Gettn better and the D turns out to be elite like I think we may still have a damn good season. If we lose 3-4 maybe it's time to retire but if we win 10-11 he may have some left in the tank. Either way we seem to have qb answer for this year and next. I'm gonna enjoy college football and hope our team wins a lot. This may be a year where a lot of teams have a few losses so we might survive a week 1 loss. We have the talent to best anyone in the sec.
tl;dr
I stopped reading after "great coach"
Posted on 9/20/16 at 10:59 am to TheHat7
quote: overall he's been a great coach
great recruiter, but not so good coach [x's and o's]
clock manager, etc. The game has evolved and past him up a long time ago.
great recruiter, but not so good coach [x's and o's]
clock manager, etc. The game has evolved and past him up a long time ago.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 11:03 am to TheHat7
I would totally get behind Miles...
in an active shooter situation.
in an active shooter situation.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 11:17 am to Pankins
Some truly pitiful fans on here.. Hope the "bumps" come after we reel off some dominating wins in November. And I u don't think miles has been a damn good coach overall then your measuring stick is filled with ignorance. He's won more than anyone in Lsu history. I'm all for change if he's done but at the end of the day it's about winning. He's done that and brought championships. With the downturn if he loses 3-4 this year then I think it's time to retire but I will always appreciate what he's accomplished which is more than 90% of college coaches. I want a good offensive product as much as anyone. I hope we light it up this year finish strong and all these miserable entitled fans tuck their tail and quit infecting Lsu football with their misery.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 11:21 am to TheHat7
being irrelevant in the conference for 4 years is not being a "great coach". Lets hope this season isn't number 5.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 11:26 am to TheHat7
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Some truly pitiful fans on here.. Hope the "bumps" come after we reel off some dominating wins in November. And I u don't think miles has been a damn good coach overall then your measuring stick is filled with ignorance. He's won more than anyone in Lsu history. I'm all for change if he's done but at the end of the day it's about winning. He's done that and brought championships. With the downturn if he loses 3-4 this year then I think it's time to retire but I will always appreciate what he's accomplished which is more than 90% of college coaches. I want a good offensive product as much as anyone. I hope we light it up this year finish strong and all these miserable entitled fans tuck their tail and quit infecting Lsu football with their misery.
Ok Les time to get back to practice!
Posted on 9/20/16 at 11:40 am to TheHat7
we can just root for lsu to win. miles still hasn't made up for 1/9. i'll say i've never rooted against miles at lsu.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 12:17 pm to TheHat7
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TheHat7
I'm right there with you brother!
Let the season play out. No reason to create a negative atmosphere to surround our team when we may potentially be able to compete for the SEC title and beyond.
If the season is a disappointment, then let the criticism and negativity flow, but right now our fans need to fan up and get behind our team. They feed off of our emotions, and if they don't feel like they have our full support it will show up on the field.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 12:36 pm to TheHat7
Everyone thinks it's Miles stubbornness to evolve and change that's holding him and the team back. Has anyone considered the idea that he's just not capable of coaching beyond what he knows he knows? Does anyone believe, especially after listening to many of his interviews that he's not even as competent as he was 4-5 years ago? I know people can have things happen to them concerning their mental and physical health that effects their work and thought process performance. Les has always been a gaf machine and hard to listen to in interviews, but he just seems so out of touch and unfocused, much more than he used to be.
I hope they figure out a way to flip this page to the next chapter sooner than later, but I hope they could maybe get it done in some dignified way for the schools sake, the teams sake, as well as for Les's sake. He will never quit or willingly retire, but if they get him to do that himself sooner than later, that would ideal for everyone and everyone's image and perception going forward. I know it goes without saying, but the excitement for the team that follows will be huge going forward, and team desperately needs that now, not next year.
I hope they figure out a way to flip this page to the next chapter sooner than later, but I hope they could maybe get it done in some dignified way for the schools sake, the teams sake, as well as for Les's sake. He will never quit or willingly retire, but if they get him to do that himself sooner than later, that would ideal for everyone and everyone's image and perception going forward. I know it goes without saying, but the excitement for the team that follows will be huge going forward, and team desperately needs that now, not next year.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 12:45 pm to TheHat7
Um, no. He needs to retire regardless of what happens this season.
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:08 pm to TheHat7
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Get behind this team...!!!
FIFY
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:21 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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None of that fits any type of stubborn that I'm aware of.
You're blinded by your loyalty to miles instead of being loyal to the school and players. Miles was forced into changes we have seen. If not for the heat, we'd still be seeing 3 straight toss dives and a schitty punt on offense.
When are you going to stop kidding yourself?
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:22 pm to TheHat7
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This post was edited on 9/20 at 3:11 am
You woke up and edited?
Posted on 9/20/16 at 1:42 pm to THouma
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great recruiter, but not so good coach [x's and o's]
clock manager, etc. The game has evolved and past him up a long time ago.
I'm just really tired of watching Miles demeanor during games. He is constantly looking at replays and seems to always be several plays behind the action on the field. How often do you see him actually "coach" a player who has screwed up?? It's almost like his total game management is listening to his headset and wondering "why is this happening....we will have to address this next game!"
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