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Game was statistically nearly even except in one area
Posted on 1/26/24 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 1/26/24 at 12:36 pm
2-point FG attempts: 49 for LSU to 45 for SC
2-point FG made: 24 to 24
3-point FG attempts: 18 to 20
3-point FG made: 6 to 7
Total FG attempts: 67 to 65
Total FG made: 30 to 31
Defensive Rebounds: 24 to 27
Offensive Rebounds: 13 to 12
Total Rebounds: 37 to 39
Assists: 17 to 15
Turnovers: 12 to 12
Steals: 6 to 6
Blocks: 7 to 4
Free throw attempts: 9 to 13
Free throws made: 4 to 7
Personal Fouls: 15 to 11
LSU may have committed 15 fouls, but there is no way SC only committed 11.
Despite that, only 1 made three and 3 made free throws were the difference.
2-point FG made: 24 to 24
3-point FG attempts: 18 to 20
3-point FG made: 6 to 7
Total FG attempts: 67 to 65
Total FG made: 30 to 31
Defensive Rebounds: 24 to 27
Offensive Rebounds: 13 to 12
Total Rebounds: 37 to 39
Assists: 17 to 15
Turnovers: 12 to 12
Steals: 6 to 6
Blocks: 7 to 4
Free throw attempts: 9 to 13
Free throws made: 4 to 7
Personal Fouls: 15 to 11
LSU may have committed 15 fouls, but there is no way SC only committed 11.
Despite that, only 1 made three and 3 made free throws were the difference.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 12:45 pm to NorthEndZone
SC was hacking the shite out of us all game, but we still had the opportunity to win (and should have)
I just wish the ticky-tack shite was called evenly.
I just wish the ticky-tack shite was called evenly.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 12:51 pm to NorthEndZone
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Free throw attempts: 9 to 13 Free throws made: 4 to 7 Personal Fouls: 15 to 11
People who don’t understand basketball always think the difference in fouls called is because of officiating. It’s almost always not.
It’s because one team plays more physical, assertive, and aggressive creating fouls. Listen to Mulkey’s comments after the game. This is precisely why she said So Carolina won. Because in the 2nd half, So Carolina was more physical and more aggressive going to the basket than LSU was.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 12:56 pm to Tammany Tom
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Because in the 2nd half, So Carolina was more physical and more aggressive going to the basket than LSU was.
Meanwhile SC's big girl was allowed to foul at will with no calls in the 3rd and 4th periods and that ridiculous call on Angel was terrible.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 1:00 pm to NorthEndZone
So they had 3 more FTs made…and they won by 6…I’m not sure I understand the point. I agree there were some bad calls, but let’s just move on and have fun watching our team go to the final 4 and have a legit shot at winning it all…cause that’s what’s gonna happen.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 1:00 pm to Tammany Tom
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People who don’t understand basketball always think the difference in fouls called is because of officiating
As a former HS basketball player, I understand exactly what you are saying.
My point is 200 player minutes for SC with only 11 fouls is ridiculous.
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because one team plays more physical, assertive, and aggressive creating fouls
LSU was the much more aggressive team in the first half and SC was not called for fouling
Posted on 1/26/24 at 1:05 pm to NorthEndZone
Angel and Hailey need to play smarter basketball next time. Less turnovers and less fouls.
Let this be motivation going forward.
Let this be motivation going forward.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 1:06 pm to NorthEndZone
I want to meet the ref at Sonic.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 1:06 pm to Tammany Tom
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Listen to Mulkey’s comments after the game. This is precisely why she said So Carolina won. Because in the 2nd half, So Carolina was more physical and more aggressive going to the basket than LSU was.
She also commented how Reese had 5 fouls yet Cardoso only had 1. You could hear in her voice she thought that was bullshite.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 1:13 pm to NorthEndZone
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My point is 200 player minutes for SC with only 11 fouls is ridiculous.
Is it significantly more ridiculous than 15 fouls in 200 minutes? An 11-15 foul discrepancy is not big. Rarely, in any basketball game are you going to have an equal number of fouls called. That doesn't mean it was a poorly officiated game. What 26 total fouls means is the officials swallowed the whistle and let both teams play. And the FT discrepancy (4) is pretty minimal on the whole.
Perhaps if you want to find a bigger discrepancy, it lies in fast break points where SC beat LSU by nine points....13-4. Generally fast break opportunities arise from live ball turnovers. Perhaps if LSU had designs of winning they should have taken better care of the ball or did a better job of getting back on defense in transition.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 1:24 pm to Alt26
BOTH teams shot FT's terribly in that game.
We LOST that game, a game in which we were ahead 95% of the time, because we do NOT have enough quality players to lose one to a foul-out with 4 minutes left. Or enough quality players to effectively rest our starters from time-to-time.
My personal belief is that we would not have lost if we had had Smith and Poole playing last night.
We LOST that game, a game in which we were ahead 95% of the time, because we do NOT have enough quality players to lose one to a foul-out with 4 minutes left. Or enough quality players to effectively rest our starters from time-to-time.
My personal belief is that we would not have lost if we had had Smith and Poole playing last night.
This post was edited on 1/26/24 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 1/26/24 at 1:24 pm to Alt26
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An 11-15 foul discrepancy is not big
Agree to an extent, but it is a 36 percent difference and led to the difference between a 6 point game and a chance to go to overtime.
In a game with not many fouls being called, 4 is a big difference.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 1:29 pm to Tammany Tom
quote:careful, this type of logic defeats this board's "cheating ref" narrative, so it won't be tolerated.
People who don’t understand basketball always think the difference in fouls called is because of officiating. It’s almost always not.
It’s because one team plays more physical, assertive, and aggressive creating fouls. Listen to Mulkey’s comments after the game.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 1:35 pm to NorthEndZone
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In a game with not many fouls being called, 4 is a big difference.
Especially when circumstance has slashed your frontcourt depth & you can count 4 questionable calls on our center. Literally the difference in team fouls was 4 — Definitely a tough break & definitely a factor.
Is it the sole reason for the L? Nah. Bad end to the first half, Williams shooting well under her clip, and the aforementioned post depth were all contributing factors.
But I can confirm, ppl aren’t just gnashing teeth over refs for no reason this time.
This post was edited on 1/26/24 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 1/26/24 at 1:52 pm to NorthEndZone
I look at it as the fouls that were NoT called that can make a huge difference in a game. And the timing if the non calls.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 1:55 pm to dukke v
There was a bigger disparity that was the bigger factor.
Our bench score 4.
Their bench scored 16.
We were really good until Angel fouled out with 4 min left.
It’s hard to win with just five players.
Our bench score 4.
Their bench scored 16.
We were really good until Angel fouled out with 4 min left.
It’s hard to win with just five players.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 1:56 pm to NorthEndZone
We didn’t attack the basket in the second half. Would love to see a shot chart/plotter.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 2:02 pm to NorthEndZone
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Agree to an extent, but it is a 36 percent difference and led to the difference between a 6 point game and a chance to go to overtime.
But it didn't. There was only a 3 point discrepancy (7-4).
Like I said, the biggest point differential was fast break points where SC had a NINE point edge (13-4). Admittedly, I didn't watch the whole game. But fast break are generally the product of 2 things: (1) live ball turnovers and/or (2) failure to get back on defense in transition.
That aside, the numbers show SC was the better team in the 4th. They outshot LSU 47% to 33% on virtually the same number of FG attempts. And in the final 5:00 or so it looked like LSU was completely exhausted. Tired legs often lead to poor defense and fouling. Three of LSU's starters played 38+ min. Another played 34.
Posted on 1/26/24 at 2:04 pm to extremetigerfanatic
I thought the game in a way was lost in the first half. LSU had the chance to break it open larger than 11 points but refused to take advantage at times. Then we give SC a 3 to end the half on what should have been a last shot for lsu. It’s the details like that that make a giant difference.
It really is impressive. Reese played 28 minutes, Williams shot the ball atrocious and they still could have won it.
It really is impressive. Reese played 28 minutes, Williams shot the ball atrocious and they still could have won it.
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