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For those of you who think we "know" what Harris is

Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:51 am
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:51 am
If, for 5 straight years, you just put the names of all the 4 star QBs in a hat and had a goat pull one out each year, the odds you'd COMPLETELY MISS all 5 years are virtually fricking nil.

Jordan Jefferson
4-Star
Scout top 20 QB
Rivals top 10 Pro-Style QB
Top 250 in country

Jarrett Lee
4 Star Rivals
4 Star Scout
Scout #15 QB
Rivals #7 QB
ESPN #10 QB

Jennings
Actually had higher ESPN composite score than JL or JJ
4 Star
#8 QB (ESPN)
#221 overall
Listed as an Elite 11 QB

Rettig
ANOTHER 4 Star
Also rated higher than JJ or JL were by ESPN
Also top 250

Now Harris. You all know his recruiting profile.

Out of the above............NONE could field a consisting passing attack or on occasion, even a not catastrophic attack.

So, you go on believing that a near statistical impossibility occurred and we got 5 straight guys rated like that who ALL were incompetent.

Cause THAT makes sense.


This post was edited on 9/7/16 at 10:56 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95247 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:52 am to
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So, you go on believing that a near statistical impossibility occurred and we got 5 straight guys rated like that who ALL were incompetent.

Cause THAT makes sense.
Exactly. And other programs with solid coaches are never missing. It is ridiculous to think our passing game is because of the QB
Posted by TLit
Orange, TX
Member since Sep 2016
50 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:53 am to
Its scheme and development, not all should be blamed on the player
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10233 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:53 am to
I think the majority are now blaming coaching.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43823 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:54 am to
If you can find one single post that says any one of those QBs wasted good coaching I'd be very impressed.....
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:54 am to
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Exactly. And other programs with solid coaches are never missing. It is ridiculous to think our passing game is because of the QB
If, for 5 straight years, you just put the names of all the 4 star QBs in a hat and had a goat pull one out each year, the odds you'd COMPLETELY MISS all 5 years are virtually fricking nil.
Posted by Oddibe
Close to some, further from others
Member since Sep 2015
6567 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:54 am to
I agree with your assessment BUT Harris "might" be ruined because of what this system has done to him and his confidence.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:55 am to
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If you can find one single post that says any one of those QBs wasted good coaching I'd be very impressed.....


Seriously?

There are tons of posts on here saying "welp, Harris sucks...bring in the next guy".
Posted by emanresu
Member since Dec 2009
9368 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:56 am to
I may be wrong, but when people say "Harris sucks", I don't think they mean his ceiling is low. I think it means he's bad because he was never coached to reach his ceiling.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43823 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:56 am to
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Seriously?

There are tons of posts on here saying "welp, Harris sucks...bring in the next guy"


That's not what I asked for, is it? I haven't seen a single post that suggests this is all on Harris. Not one.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41292 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:57 am to
So you don't think we should give a shot to another quarterback? I'm not following.
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
11960 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:57 am to
HS recruiting rankings, especially with QBs is a crapshoot a lot of times. I'd like to know what other schools actually offered scholarships to the ones we signed. I assume they all had several scholarship offers from other big time schools but I really don't know.

Based on the results on the field, JL and JJ were both very serviceable SEC QBs. B Harris has not been. AJ did not appear to be. No clue on rettig.
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
7961 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:58 am to
Harris is a kid with potential that's not being given much of a chance to realize it. You could go so far as to say being ruined by inept coaching
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:58 am to
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That's not what I asked for, is it? I haven't seen a single post that suggests this is all on Harris. Not one.


LOL, go to the score board and you can find at least 20 THREADS saying this is all on him.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:58 am to
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So you don't think we should give a shot to another quarterback? I'm not following.


Hey. I'm always on record that you TRY the other guy if your current guy is struggling. Hell. Sometimes, it helps the guy you sit.

But, let's not pretend that there is any reasonable expectation that the next guy is going to break the pattern and moreover, let's not pretend that this has been a problem for FIVE STRAIGHT GUYS!
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43823 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:58 am to
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LOL, go to the score board and you can find at least 20 THREADS saying this is all on him.


Should be easy to link then. So do it.
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10134 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:59 am to
If Nick Marshall can be effective in this conference, then Brandon Harris can too.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57320 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:59 am to
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Its scheme and development, not all should be blamed on the player


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Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:59 am to
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That's not what I asked for, is it? I haven't seen a single post that suggests this is all on Harris. Not one.


OK. Got it.

My point is, we don't even REALLY know what we have in Harris.

It's IMPOSSIBLE to know. He may really be a complete bust but, given the statistical improbability that we've had 5 straight busts...........
Posted by ShlikStyck
Bum F**k Egypt
Member since Jan 2005
3789 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:00 am to
I know what the OP is saying, but his personal mechanics last week were some of the worst I've ever seen from any QB at any level. And I know he's been coached by more than this staff. So what's that all about??
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