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re: For the 1st time in forever, an opposing Def did NOT stack the box
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:43 am to Havoc
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:43 am to Havoc
quote:8 completions of 10 or more yards.
There was a 52 yd pass and a 32 yd pass and numerous mid-range pass completions as well as 8 completions for 1st downs.
So, 44% of our completions were greater than 10 yards.
I didn't check........but I've a sneaking suspicion that hasn't been very common in the last few years.
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:52 am to ShortyRob
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This offense doesn't need to go Clemson on Bama, it just needs to not be dead on arrival.
Actually it does need to do that since those are the guys we have to beat.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:53 am to Goldrush25
quote:Do you even read?
Actually it does need to do that since those are the guys we have to beat.
The point was, Bama looks like at best, the same team we totally stoned last year.
They just stoned us WORSE.
If we can supply some offense, I think we stone them again. Hurts is not a QB.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:04 am to ShortyRob
quote:
8 completions of 10 or more yards. So, 44% of our completions were greater than 10 yards. I didn't check........but I've a sneaking suspicion that hasn't been very common in the last few years.
Probably accurate. Also the fact that a lot were for conversions and were perfectly executed sideline plays.
IMO I get the feeling Canada was showing how strong the passing game is while still capitalizing on the rush that was more or less there for the taking. Those passes were executed flawlessly. If you're a future opponent watching that film, that's not something to be ignored.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:06 am to Goldrush25
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BYU had a shite gameplan. Just seemed like they were scared.
They were spread across the field which has far more to do with our offensive game plan.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:06 am to Havoc
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IMO I get the feeling Canada was showing how strong the passing game is while still capitalizing on the rush that was more or less there for the taking. Those passes were executed flawlessly. If you're a future opponent watching that film, that's not something to be ignored.
I don't know. The 2 outs to Dillon on 3rd down took way too long to get there. Those throws against SEC defense smell like a pick 6 to me.
Although that is when you run that route, then Dillon cuts up field when the DB bites, for an easy TD too
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 10:07 am
Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:07 am to extremetigerfanatic
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Bama doesn't give a shite about jet sweeps, they run em down in their sleep.
The idea is to force the defense out of the box and get the d'backs up. Jet sweeps can gain one yard and still be effective. They're strategic
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 10:09 am
Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:08 am to ShortyRob
quote:
Do you even read?
The point was, Bama looks like at best, the same team we totally stoned last year.
They just stoned us WORSE.
If we can supply some offense,
I think we stone them again. Hurts is not a QB.
Great, then it's settled. 12-0, get it done O.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:09 am to STEVED00
BYU obviously didn't trust their CBs, and that's why they were giving the WRs such massive cushions. It didn't help that the one time they did walk up their safeties we went over the top for a large gain.
In SEC play, you're going to see teams force Etling to throw the ball intermediate/deep outside the numbers. Those 5 yard outs he was applying way too much touch on made SEC coordinators salivate.
In SEC play, you're going to see teams force Etling to throw the ball intermediate/deep outside the numbers. Those 5 yard outs he was applying way too much touch on made SEC coordinators salivate.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:10 am to ShortyRob
quote:In regards to Bama, jet sweeps, and Canada there's something I'll be watching. Saban & Smart started employing this on LSU years ago, and it's worked great on us. Mainly it works great because it's worth the risk when we can't protect the QB enough to take advantage of it. But that's another story.
I also don't think they trusted their ability to run sideline to sideline with our guys even in the running game.
My impression was that oddly enough, their soft stance was somewhat related to fearing the runs that don't come straight at them.
I'm assuming they will continue to try it, and Canada will see if from film... the question is how does he combat it assuming QB will have very little time.
How many times did we see CBs slice in for a tackle on Fournette after being moved sideways? Alot. Not safeties, CBs.
What they do is creep the S up, and wide, but that's not for run support. That is for coverage. The S basically shifts into soft coverage on the WR, the CB will jam and then release but be setup in an inside position (to avoid being blocked) and then cover the run by being containment which frees up a LB or DE to crash down or penetrate (thereby disrupting an inside run and forcing it outside).
As far as jet sweeps, that puts an accounted for but unblocked, or poorly blocked, person on the outside.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:11 am to Salmon
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Those throws against SEC defense smell like a pick 6 to me.
The only SEC defenses that are any good are LSU, Bama and UFs secondary
Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:12 am to RogerTheShrubber
The entire defense doesn't have to be good. They just need a faster safety than that slow BYU safety.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:14 am to Salmon
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The entire defense doesn't have to be good. They just need a faster safety than that slow BYU safety.
BYU defense is better than people here give them credit.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:16 am to RogerTheShrubber
Their defense will probably be in top half of LSU's opponents.
My point still stands.
Etling needs more velocity on that pass or it's going to burn him in the future against better DBs.
My point still stands.
Etling needs more velocity on that pass or it's going to burn him in the future against better DBs.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:18 am to RogerTheShrubber
State's defense actually looked pretty good to me, that will be a good early season test.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:19 am to MOT
I didn't think the problem was velocity which was average. I thought he was a tad late on delivery which might cost him. That's something he can tighten up.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:23 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:that's a continuation of a problem from last year.
I thought he was a tad late on delivery which might cost him. That's something he can tighten up.
My guess it's more of a result of "not enough chemistry", to throw early he's got to trust that WR to be ready, adjust if needed, and know where he's going to be... instead of waiting for him to get open, or look like he's going to get open.
Just not enough trust, yet. Let's be frank... would you trust Chi to go up and fight for a ball, every time without taking plays off.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:24 am to Salmon
One safety walked up a few yards more than normal, which caused him to get beat by Charks speed. The other safety decided to deal with the TE in motion and ran up to him in the flats (TE stayed in). This left Chark free one on one over the top. Prior to that play the safeties were 12 yards deep on this play they were 8-9.
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 10:26 am
Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:30 am to MOT
quote:
State's defense actually looked pretty good to me, that will be a good early season test.
Yeah, they may be decent but youre right, its going to be a good test of both
Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:32 am to Turbeauxdog
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Which was dumb. I guarantee sec oppponents will stack the box until we prove we can beat it.
I have no idea why byu did not.
Yup. The difference now is that Elling has already begun to prove he can pass when called on to do so. So, I'm become more confident we will be successful in those situations.
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