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Final verdict on the non called IG on Hurts from the endzone
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:32 pm
I posted this in another thread, but wanted to make sure it was well known this was a blatantly blown call.
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Go to rule 7, section 3, article 2.
"The passer to conserve yardage throws the ball forward into an area where there is no eligible Team A receiver (A.R. 7-3-2-I)."
"Exception: It is not a foul if the passer is or has been outside the tackle box and throws the ball so that it crosses or lands beyond the neutral zone or neutral zone extended (Rule 2-19-3) (A.R. 7-3-2-VIII-X). This applies only to the player who controls the snap or the resulting backward pass and retains possession before throwing the forward pass."
The LOS is only taken into consideration if he is, or at one point was, out of the tackle box, which he clearly wasn't. It also says nothing to do with immediate pressure, even though he techincally was. Should have been IG. Should have been a safety. End of story.
LINK
Go to rule 7, section 3, article 2.
"The passer to conserve yardage throws the ball forward into an area where there is no eligible Team A receiver (A.R. 7-3-2-I)."
"Exception: It is not a foul if the passer is or has been outside the tackle box and throws the ball so that it crosses or lands beyond the neutral zone or neutral zone extended (Rule 2-19-3) (A.R. 7-3-2-VIII-X). This applies only to the player who controls the snap or the resulting backward pass and retains possession before throwing the forward pass."
The LOS is only taken into consideration if he is, or at one point was, out of the tackle box, which he clearly wasn't. It also says nothing to do with immediate pressure, even though he techincally was. Should have been IG. Should have been a safety. End of story.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 2:37 pm
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Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:34 pm to Geauxstbuster
It's Alabama what do you expect. They weren't going to call that.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:35 pm to DhanTigers212
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It's Alabama what do you expect.
It's not necessarily what I expect, I'm simply stating the rules and the lack of them being called.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:37 pm to Geauxstbuster
While I am with you
F Bama
We will need to start playing complete games and winning every down on the field to come way with a win.
F Bama
We will need to start playing complete games and winning every down on the field to come way with a win.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:39 pm to Geauxstbuster
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:40 pm to Geauxstbuster
This is just a smart QB throwing the ball away - out of bounds beyond the line of scrimmage. No flag here. 
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:40 pm to AnotherRound
He looks outside the box to me. Close but I think they got the call right.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:40 pm to Geauxstbuster
When i saw it in the stadium i thought it was intentional grounding. Seeing that gif it's pretty close. Probably is grounding but he's pretty close to being outside of the pocket.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:41 pm to YouAre8Up
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:41 pm to Geauxstbuster
I don't think it's blatant. He's right on the edge of the tackle box, it just doesn't seem like it with the pocket shifting.
You could argue both cases. This doesn't change the fact that we got man handled all game on the offensive side of the ball.
You could argue both cases. This doesn't change the fact that we got man handled all game on the offensive side of the ball.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:44 pm to Geauxstbuster
Very hard to say he's not outside the box.. could've been called and more likely if it's result isn't a safety.. in general the refs don't like to give points based on interpretations like this regardless of the team
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:45 pm to Geauxstbuster
It was clearly grounding because he threw it about 10 yards out of bounds and the nearest receiver wouldn't have been close to it even if he would have cut to the right.
LSU had their chances though. They squandered great field position numerous times and had nothing creative to try and get a big play to score some points.
LSU had their chances though. They squandered great field position numerous times and had nothing creative to try and get a big play to score some points.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:45 pm to Geauxstbuster
50/50 calls go Alabama's way so that means Alabama has a 51/49 advanctage against lsu and not a 50/50 even fair match.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:46 pm to TROLA
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Very hard to say he's not outside the box.. could've been called and more likely if it's result isn't a safety.. in general the refs don't like to give points based on interpretations like this regardless of the team
IG would have been a loss of down at the spot of the foul. Spot of the foul being in the endzone.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:47 pm to Geauxstbuster
It's close but it looks like he's outside of the box.
What's the next excuse you plan to raise?
What's the next excuse you plan to raise?
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:48 pm to Geauxstbuster
by the letter of the rule, it could've been called grounding. But it didn't look like Hurts was under extreme pressure, so I guess the ref let it go.
I'm fine with it. Now if Hurts was about to get tackled, then I think the ref calls it because I don't think he was outside the tackle box. Close, but not outside.
I'm fine with it. Now if Hurts was about to get tackled, then I think the ref calls it because I don't think he was outside the tackle box. Close, but not outside.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:50 pm to DallasTiger
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he's outside of the box.
73 is the tackle. To be outside the box Hurts needs to be to the right of 73. Clearly, he's not outside the tackle box.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:50 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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It was clearly grounding because he threw it about 10 yards out of bounds and the nearest receiver wouldn't have been close to it even if he would have cut to the right.
right no one is arguing whether he threw it near a receiver. The debate is whether he was in the box or not.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:51 pm to DallasTiger
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It's close but it looks like he's outside of the box.
What's the next excuse you plan to raise?
SECTION 34. Tackle Box
ARTICLE 1. a. The tackle box is the rectangular area enclosed by the
neutral zone, the two lines parallel to the sidelines five yards from the
snapper, and Team A’s end line.
73 being the end line. Looks in the box to me.
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:51 pm to jonboy
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73 is the tackle. To be outside the box Hurts needs to be to the right of 73. Clearly, he's not outside the tackle box.
from where 73 was at the snap. Not to where 73 moved once the play starts. I don't think either way is "clear". It's close.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 2:52 pm
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