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Does LSU offense tip off plays inadvertently?
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:31 am
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:31 am
Bama seemed to excel way beyond expectations when LF was handed the ball but other plays looked much more routine and competitive. I don't remember any other negative non pass plays outside of LF getting dropped. Do you think LF or someone on the offense inadvertently tips off the play when LF is getting it? Something like a twitch or pad adjustment???
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:33 am to GetmorewithLes
really don't have to tip anything off to know what we're trying to do.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:34 am to GetmorewithLes
They are working on trends by down, distance and formation. Statistical analysis gives them a pretty good idea of what we'll run in a given circumstance. Makes their staff look like geniuses when we audible right into their run blitz.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:38 am to Katy Tiger
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They are working on trends by down, distance and formation. Statistical analysis gives them a pretty good idea of what we'll run in a given circumstance.
This post was edited on 11/12/15 at 9:38 am
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:43 am to Katy Tiger
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They are working on trends by down, distance and formation. Statistical analysis gives them a pretty good idea of what we'll run in a given circumstance. Makes their staff look like geniuses when we audible right into their run blitz.
I think that is most likely the case but rewatching the game - at least the offense part it is remarkable how effective and reactive to LF getting the ball but when he doesn't they (Bama) look like any other good defense.
I have also seen on here that we need to vary the snap count and quit running the play clock down to 2 sec before we snap it thus giving the defense a jump.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:46 am to GetmorewithLes
I know, right?
It's like they have film on us or something.
It's like they have film on us or something.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:48 am to GetmorewithLes
I like the fact that we can pretty much dictate our will on every other team in the SEC....
But from the Bama game... Les Miles is as easy to read as a Dr. Seus book. He coaches to not lose. I miss the 2010, D. Peterson reverse Les Miles.
I said it before, but winning 9-6 the way we won it, ultra-conservative, field position, time of possession, was the worst thing to happen to Les vs Alabama.
I don't mind running, but give Bama different looks. My significant other graduated from Michigan so I've been watching a lot of them this year also. They are a running team, but they do it from so many different formations. I'm not hoping for a complete transformation, but at least make it harder. I don't fault Les' thinking this year because we do have an all-time great RB....but it's evident this year, we can't attack Bama status quo if we can't beat them with LF.
Les continues to hope to dictate our will vs Bama, but they're the only team in the country we don't have superior talent. He needs to be old un-predictable Les, or recruit at an even higher level.
Watching Les trying to establish a running game against Bama is like watching a toddler sticking the round block in the square hole.
But from the Bama game... Les Miles is as easy to read as a Dr. Seus book. He coaches to not lose. I miss the 2010, D. Peterson reverse Les Miles.
I said it before, but winning 9-6 the way we won it, ultra-conservative, field position, time of possession, was the worst thing to happen to Les vs Alabama.
I don't mind running, but give Bama different looks. My significant other graduated from Michigan so I've been watching a lot of them this year also. They are a running team, but they do it from so many different formations. I'm not hoping for a complete transformation, but at least make it harder. I don't fault Les' thinking this year because we do have an all-time great RB....but it's evident this year, we can't attack Bama status quo if we can't beat them with LF.
Les continues to hope to dictate our will vs Bama, but they're the only team in the country we don't have superior talent. He needs to be old un-predictable Les, or recruit at an even higher level.
Watching Les trying to establish a running game against Bama is like watching a toddler sticking the round block in the square hole.
This post was edited on 11/12/15 at 9:49 am
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:53 am to GetmorewithLes
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Does LSU offense tip off plays inadvertently?
When you do the same thing 80% of the time the nothing to tip off.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:54 am to GetmorewithLes
I read somewhere last week that our o-line had a tell that gave away when we were running and when we were gonna pass before the play started.
Something about how the line got in their stance. IF they were lined up low, Bama knew it was a run, and if higher, then it would be a pass.
No link. anyone else see this?
Something about how the line got in their stance. IF they were lined up low, Bama knew it was a run, and if higher, then it would be a pass.
No link. anyone else see this?
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:55 am to Rabid Tiger
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I don't mind running, but give Bama different looks.
We are the most predictable offense for sure but you are right. You can still run similar plays from different looks. One of the things that I thought was missing from previous games was the option toss. We have not run it a lot but running Bama wide a few times has been successful in the past games. Buga, Guice, Dural, Jackson all have great speed that could put yards on the field and points on the board.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:59 am to CHET72
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Something about how the line got in their stance. IF they were lined up low, Bama knew it was a run, and if higher, then it would be a pass.
This is exactly what I am talking about.
Also, I know that teams often reverse scheme or analyze the other side of the ball for internal controls (i.e. Defense analyzes Offense) but do they ever go out and get third party consultants to do this for them?
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:03 am to GetmorewithLes
LSU has plenty of tells based off player comments from last years game
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:05 am to GetmorewithLes
Yes when they line up with 2 TE's, 1-WR in the I formation is is a running play or pass down sideline with the WR.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:07 am to GetmorewithLes
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We are the most predictable offense for sure but you are right. You can still run similar plays from different looks. One of the things that I thought was missing from previous games was the option toss. We have not run it a lot but running Bama wide a few times has been successful in the past games. Buga, Guice, Dural, Jackson all have great speed that could put yards on the field and points on the board.
We are extremely predictable but the thing to keep in mind is we still are extremely young on offense and they were going against a defense that was playing anywhere from 5-8 Seniors at a time. Our offense is good enough to win most of our games. Just not Bama. I don't know what Nick uses to get the edge but lets look at the first play of the 2nd half when Harris threw the INT. How many times this year have we run a play-action bootleg to Quinn? The answer is maybe once. Bama was all over that shite. They had 3 guys in that area of the field.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:10 am to The Egg
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their safety came down to make tackles. "
Yet he decided to pound the rock into 9 guys thinking he could impose our manhood on the tide. Next thing you know, they took our manhood.
It's just silly to think that bamas weakness is pass defense and miles said frick it. Ima pound that ball down their throats.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:11 am to Rabid Tiger
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Les continues to hope to dictate our will vs Bama, but they're the only team in the country we don't have superior talent. He needs to be old un-predictable Les, or recruit at an even higher level.
I think the latter is what needs to happen. Miles is going to go conservative against Bama. He only takes risks when he knows he has the upper hand. That is since 2011. We must match them on recruiting as far as both lines. We won't be able to exceed them by any large margin. There..err (cough cough) unfair advantages and Saban's recruiting prowess prevents that. But we can at least match and take it from there. See this year and 2009 recruiting season as a blue print for what we need to do.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:12 am to dstone12
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Yet he decided to pound the rock into 9 guys
LSU was not running into 9 guys against Bama
they did not "stack the box"...they didn't need to
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:13 am to Salmon
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LSU was not running into 9 guys against Bama they did not "stack the box"...they didn't need to
Shhh. you are confusing them with facts.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:14 am to GetmorewithLes
With so few offensive alignments it's not real tough trying to figure it out. Plus when Quinn and Diarse are in as the only wideouts then you know it's a run. Look at where those 2 line up and you can figure whether it's going right or left.
I watch about 3 hours of LSU football each week (the games live) and I figured it out.
I watch about 3 hours of LSU football each week (the games live) and I figured it out.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 10:17 am to Salmon
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SU was not running into 9 guys against Bama they did not "stack the box"...they didn't need to
Okay, eight? Front seven plus a safety that Miles admits during his show kept coming down and making tackles.
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