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re: Does LSU baseball have any true Walk Ons?
Posted on 4/11/15 at 8:02 pm to Dr. Shultz
Posted on 4/11/15 at 8:02 pm to Dr. Shultz
You're getting into my original question... "true" walk on.
There's a "roster spot" walk on, "preferred", and "true".
Roster spot is a guarantee with no scholarship
Preferred is a recruit who isn't given that guarantee
True is a tryout guy
There's a "roster spot" walk on, "preferred", and "true".
Roster spot is a guarantee with no scholarship
Preferred is a recruit who isn't given that guarantee
True is a tryout guy
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Posted on 4/11/15 at 8:03 pm to ell_13
So when he enrolled at LSU (in the summer) he wasn't guaranteed a spot but by the time summer school ended he had earned a spot.
Preferred or true?
Preferred or true?
Posted on 4/11/15 at 8:05 pm to ell_13
Ell 13. This!
There is a lot of confusion about what a roster spot is. Every year there are a few walk-ons. Nate Fury was one. Ryan May was one. I can't remember if Cotten was one. There is always a "more than full" roster". Every year there is an attrition of players by one way or the other. Nate is now playing pro ball and doing very well. You wonder why a walk-on would even be given opportunity, but Nate is proof that there are those players that might have slipped through the cracks. This year the Episcopal kid tried out as a walk-on and was cut. Any time a walk-on makes the team, there is a casualty.
There is a lot of confusion about what a roster spot is. Every year there are a few walk-ons. Nate Fury was one. Ryan May was one. I can't remember if Cotten was one. There is always a "more than full" roster". Every year there is an attrition of players by one way or the other. Nate is now playing pro ball and doing very well. You wonder why a walk-on would even be given opportunity, but Nate is proof that there are those players that might have slipped through the cracks. This year the Episcopal kid tried out as a walk-on and was cut. Any time a walk-on makes the team, there is a casualty.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 8:07 pm to Dr. Shultz
He was recruited. From my understanding (and I'll admit I do not remember the details), was that he was promised 1 of the 35 at the start of the fall. Either way, I wouldn't put him at "true" in the way the OP intended.
This post was edited on 4/11/15 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 4/11/15 at 8:08 pm to Asllan
quote:
When he enrolled at LSU he wasn't guaranteed a spot on the team and he is still not getting any scholarship money I think. I know he wasn't his freshman year. By my definition that's a walk on
Your definition means nothing to the NCAA. It is complicated unless you have lived it. Football and baseball are nothing alike. If you get the two confused, you lose.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 8:09 pm to ell_13
He was guaranteed a spot by the beginning of the fall semester. BUT he enrolled in the summer and wasn't guaranteed a spot at that time. It matters if you want to start the time frame as starting in the fall or when he actually enrolled in school
Asllan why you acting all butthurt
Asllan why you acting all butthurt
This post was edited on 4/11/15 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 4/11/15 at 8:10 pm to Dr. Shultz
The semantics on this one... not a typical case.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 8:10 pm to Asllan
quote:
There is a big difference in a preferred walk-on/walk-on and a roster spot.
That's just not true. A walk on can earn a roster spot, like what Cotton did. Preffered walk ons are generally guaranteed a roster spot, they are just deemed walk ons for scholarship reasons, and get scholly money from other means. A preferred walk on and a practice squad walk on are not the same thing.
I remember Laird being a preferred walk on his Freshaman year. Rhymes was also a preferred walk on if I remember correctly and didn't accept scholly money and just stuck to TOPS.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 8:11 pm to rlebl39
I think you agree with him and don't realize it.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 8:13 pm to rlebl39
quote:Not true. He was a transfer and went against the total number. But he gave up his money because he didn't need it.
Rhymes was also a preferred walk on if I remember correctly and didn't accept scholly money and just stuck to TOPS.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 8:14 pm to Dr. Shultz
quote:
BUT he enrolled in the summer and wasn't guaranteed a spot at that time. It matters if you want to start the time frame as starting in the fall or when he actually enrolled in school
The only thing that matters is his status on the first day of fall practice. It does not matter when you are offered a roster spot or a scholly. By the time he stepped on the field, he had a commitment from LSU to play ball for LSU. Most Louisiana players do not get any scholly money. Most..... Money means nothing when it comes to the 35 roster spots. Laird got not money. That does not make him a walk-on. I get irritated that people try to diminish the players that don't get scholly money and imply that they had to walk-on. Rhymes gave back his scholly money. That did not make him a walk-on.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 8:14 pm to ell_13
Yeah probably so. The semantics on this because of stupid NCAA can get confusing.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 8:16 pm to rlebl39
quote:
Yeah probably so. The semantics on this because of stupid NCAA can get confusing.
Whew! Thank you for listening to facts.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 8:17 pm to ell_13
quote:
Not true. He was a transfer and went against the total number. But he gave up his money because he didn't need it.
Ok well now I'm confused. I thought that if he didn't accept scholarship money that he didn't count against the total number, which is why he didn't accept it.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 8:18 pm to Asllan
Well obviously. He couldn't step on the field at LSU if he wasn't already given a spot
Here's a fact. When he stepped on LSUs campus and started taking courses he was not guaranteed a spot on LSUs roster. If the NCAA doesn't consider that a walk on bc it's in the summer that's fine.
Allsan idk why you are taking this so personally I'm just posting facts. I don't care if he's considered a walk on by the NCAA or not
Here's a fact. When he stepped on LSUs campus and started taking courses he was not guaranteed a spot on LSUs roster. If the NCAA doesn't consider that a walk on bc it's in the summer that's fine.
Allsan idk why you are taking this so personally
I'm just posting facts. I don't care if he's considered a walk on by the NCAA or not This post was edited on 4/11/15 at 8:20 pm
Posted on 4/11/15 at 8:20 pm to Asllan
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I get irritated that people try to diminish the players that don't get scholly money and imply that they had to walk-on. Rhymes gave back his scholly money. That did not make him a walk-on.
Nobody is diminishing them for being a preferred walk on and not taking money. If anything that makes them liked more.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 8:21 pm to rlebl39
quote:
Not true. He was a transfer and went against the total number. But he gave up his money because he didn't need it.
Correct! He got money (and was begged) to come to LSU instead of Ole Miss after playing for LSU-E. He was not a walk-on. He was given a scholly. He later gave back his scholly. Again, that did not turn him into a walk-on.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 8:23 pm to Asllan
quote:
Here's a fact. When he stepped on LSUs campus and started taking courses he was not guaranteed a spot on LSUs roster. If the NCAA doesn't consider that a walk on bc it's in the summer that's fine.
I'm good with that.
Posted on 4/11/15 at 8:23 pm to Asllan
But before he went to LSU-E and was at LSU, he was a preferred walk on. Correct?
Posted on 4/11/15 at 8:26 pm to rlebl39
I think so. Realize there are always more than 35 players trying out for 35 spots. Baseball players do not get four years schollys like football. So, even if you get a roster spot, you had better perform. The promise is... well...
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