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Does anyone still get the LSU had to cheat to win crap?
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:59 am
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:59 am
I keep hearing...but but, LSU had to fake an injury to stop Iowa.
It would be funny were it not so pathetic.
I just tell them that maybe if your defense had tackled Hill now and then...
It would be funny were it not so pathetic.
I just tell them that maybe if your defense had tackled Hill now and then...
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 2:16 am to EastBankTiger
If offenses want to go up tempo to try and create an advantage then defenses can go "down tempo" to even the odds for all I give a shite.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 3:54 am to UnAnon
Amen bro,plus I think competition committees have to start looking at calling these rub routes..thats what is giving them the biggest advantages. I view it as cheating the game and saw it continuously in the bowl games.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 5:16 am to EastBankTiger
We've been doing it for years, first time it was obvious to me was the Oregon came. I don't know if we started this trend or not but we definitely have a well earned reputation for doing it. It's low class and against the rules. Running an uptempo offense isn't against the rules. It needs to be dealt with harshly by the NCAA.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 5:32 am to 20MuleTeam
quote:um...there are already rules in place to keep players from faking injuries. You have to sit out a play or use a timeout to keep the player in the game. LSU is simply using the existing rules to their benefit.
It's low class and against the rules.
quote:you are correct. neither is having a player lay on the ground, having medical staff check on him, then replacing that player with another player.
Running an uptempo offense isn't against the rules.
quote:meh.
It needs to be dealt with harshly by the NCAA.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 5:35 am to 20MuleTeam
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I don't know if we started this trend or not
lol, trust me, LSU didn't. there's a whole conference that has to play Oregon, and there have been accusations of this in amongst Pac 10/12 schools for a while.
quote:
we definitely have a well earned reputation for doing it
do we now? give me some examples.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 5:39 am to 20MuleTeam
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It's low class and against the rules. Running an uptempo offense isn't against the rules. It needs to be dealt with harshly by the NCAA.
How in the hell is it "low class" or against the rules for that matter? And furthermore, good luck proving that the injury was fake in real time.
I look at it the same way a poster said above, if a team is going to use uptempo to eliminate the advantage of having depth and using substitutes, then I'm ok with countering that with downtempo to take away their advantage as well. It's strategy-has nothing to do with class.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 5:39 am to EastBankTiger
If it is cheating or agaiNst the rules, how come there is no flag thrown? Because it is not. Just a strategy.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 5:41 am to EastBankTiger
Adapt or die
Regardless, faking an injury didn't win LSU the game. Hill abusing their touted LB core is what did it
Regardless, faking an injury didn't win LSU the game. Hill abusing their touted LB core is what did it
Posted on 1/8/14 at 5:46 am to geauxtigahs87
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Hill abusing their touted LB core is what did it
And they were clearly good - I would have liked a couple of those guys on our team this year.
Having said that - Hill made them look amazingly mortal on that last drive.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 6:47 am to hashtag
Wrong again, faking an injury is against the rules. And we clearly have been doing that. Of course it can't be proven. But since it seems to be an epidemic, what a poster the other day suggested is how you deal with it is as follows. Anyone taking a knee to he checked or needing to be checked has to sit out a dozen plays or even more. That's harsh to those with just a cramp, but it will cut down on that low rent move by us and as you said many PAC 12 teams. I'm sure there's a bunch of others too doing it. The fake injuries plague is why an otherwise great game, soccer, is an absolute joke.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 6:55 am to 20MuleTeam
Of course out fans have no problem with faking an injury to slow down an uptempo offense because LSU doesn't run an uptempo offense.
Let Miles adapt that type of offense and watch how quickly they change their opinion on defenses using that tactic
Let Miles adapt that type of offense and watch how quickly they change their opinion on defenses using that tactic
This post was edited on 1/8/14 at 7:00 am
Posted on 1/8/14 at 7:01 am to tzimme4
Jacob Hester did it against Florida
Posted on 1/8/14 at 7:08 am to SPEEDY
Grabs left leg
Trainers working on the right
Geno Smith quote after the LSU/WV game: "There is not really a rule against that so it is something that teams may do. It really doesn't hurt us because we have to move onto the next play, but we would love to keep the thing rolling and stay with that tempo."
This post was edited on 1/8/14 at 7:12 am
Posted on 1/8/14 at 7:09 am to SPEEDY
I have viewed this uptempo fast paced offense style for a while now and it started with the 2minute in pro ball. It is all supposed to catch the d out of position or not ready. I do not think that hurrying to the line and not allowing folks to be set is poor sportsmanship at the very least.
They have penalties for the o for not being set for a reason. This hurry up is like down set fire and all within seconds. I think it is a burden of refs to determine if the offense has actually become set after both teams get to the right side of the line of scrimmage.
They have penalties for the o for not being set for a reason. This hurry up is like down set fire and all within seconds. I think it is a burden of refs to determine if the offense has actually become set after both teams get to the right side of the line of scrimmage.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 7:11 am to EastBankTiger
All players are told to get on the ground if they are injured so the medical staff can come to them to check them out. That's why you now see players go down a few seconds after the play ends. This is particularly true with cramps late in games. No point in trying to belly crawl to the sideline. Seems to be part of the new emphasis on safety. Who knows whether we fake injuries or not?
The only thing "low class" going on are the fans who boo them.
I remember the end of the Cap One Bowl in 2009 where we were driving for the winning FG. We ran a play up the middle, the clock was running. Our RB set the ball on the ground so we could hurry up to the next snap. A Penn State player comes out of nowhere and jumps on top of the ball. One of our players reacts and pulls the Penn State player off the ball drawing a personal foul penalty pushing us back 15 yards. Don't remember if we got the 50+ yard FG off or not. But we lost.
In the press conference after the game the Penn State player was asked if he was intentionally trying to delay the game. He smiled and laughed and said "My team won. That's all that matters."
It's a game. You do what you have to win. Just like the 2009 Cap One game this will be quickly forgotten and all people will know is LSU beat Iowa.
The only thing "low class" going on are the fans who boo them.
I remember the end of the Cap One Bowl in 2009 where we were driving for the winning FG. We ran a play up the middle, the clock was running. Our RB set the ball on the ground so we could hurry up to the next snap. A Penn State player comes out of nowhere and jumps on top of the ball. One of our players reacts and pulls the Penn State player off the ball drawing a personal foul penalty pushing us back 15 yards. Don't remember if we got the 50+ yard FG off or not. But we lost.
In the press conference after the game the Penn State player was asked if he was intentionally trying to delay the game. He smiled and laughed and said "My team won. That's all that matters."
It's a game. You do what you have to win. Just like the 2009 Cap One game this will be quickly forgotten and all people will know is LSU beat Iowa.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 7:12 am to EastBankTiger
If you ain't cheating you ain't trying. If you get caught you ain't trying hard enough.
But seriously, it's chickenshit.
But seriously, it's chickenshit.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 7:15 am to EastBankTiger
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I keep hearing...but but, LSU had to fake an injury to stop Iowa.
Where are you hearing this?
Posted on 1/8/14 at 7:20 am to EastBankTiger
Classic tiger rant, let the roles be reversed and watch the million threads crying about whatever team is faking injuries against us
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