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Does anyone know of a chart showing the percentage of Major League success?
Posted on 6/11/16 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 6/11/16 at 2:14 pm
I would like to see this by draft round. Like, 1st round 40% makes it to the majors, 2nd round 20%, etc. (those are made up numbers). I am curious how likely some of our guys are going to make the big time.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 2:18 pm to tigbit
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If recent history is any guide, then that answer is roughly one in six—or, to be precise, 17.2 percent of signed draft picks.
Baseball America arrived at that number by analyzing the 22 drafts from 1987 through 2008, noting the number of signed players who reached the big leagues for at least one game. This involved fusing the BA draft database, which contains signing information for every draft pick in history (save for a few stray draft-and-follows), and the Baseball-Reference.com draft database, which links major league statistics to every draft pick in history (again, with few exceptions).
We began the head count in 1987 because that year’s draft was the first to feature only one phase. This removed the complicating factor of the annual January and June drafts, each featuring two phases, by which players and teams were bound for the first 22 years of draft history.
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These teams abound; there are over 150 of them, compared to 30 in the majors. The big leagues have 750 players, yet the 2004 draft alone took 1,500. Hence some estimate that only one in 33 minor leaguers ever makes it to the pros. If that's correct, the chance of a high school player making the big leagues is one in 6,600, or 0.015 percent. That's roughly the chance of a thief guessing your PIN number on the first try.
This post was edited on 6/11/16 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 6/11/16 at 2:24 pm to tduecen
Thanks tduecen! This is exactly what I was looking for. Seems like after the 2nd round its an uphill battle.
1987-2008 Drafts (22)
Round Total Signed MLB MLB% 3YRS 3YRS%
1 633 611 446 73.0 239 39.1
1stsupp 273 266 139 52.3 42 15.8
2 666 626 309 49.4 101 16.1
3-5 1,906 1,749 605 34.6 177 10.1
6-10 3,165 2,777 598 21.5 182 6.6
11-20 6,329 4,901 638 13.0 175 3.6
21+ 20,433 8,191 553 6.8 135 1.6
Total 33,405 19,121 3,288 17.2% 1,051 5.5%
1987-2008 Drafts (22)
Round Total Signed MLB MLB% 3YRS 3YRS%
1 633 611 446 73.0 239 39.1
1stsupp 273 266 139 52.3 42 15.8
2 666 626 309 49.4 101 16.1
3-5 1,906 1,749 605 34.6 177 10.1
6-10 3,165 2,777 598 21.5 182 6.6
11-20 6,329 4,901 638 13.0 175 3.6
21+ 20,433 8,191 553 6.8 135 1.6
Total 33,405 19,121 3,288 17.2% 1,051 5.5%
This post was edited on 6/11/16 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 6/11/16 at 2:30 pm to tigbit
Roughly 25% of first rounders don't even make it.
That being said, nearly 100% of guys who don't sign will make it. What I mean is that you can't go to a guy like Poche and tell him to come back to LSU because 14 rounders aren't likely to make it. When you're drafted doesn't change the player. If he comes back and gets picked in the 6th it doesn't mean he's any more likely to make it. If he improves that much at LSU, he'd improve that much in the minors. It just becomes a question of where you'd like to spend your time while hopefully getting better.
I'm not suggesting you're saying otherwise, I'm just making a point about later picks who have to make the choice.
That being said, nearly 100% of guys who don't sign will make it. What I mean is that you can't go to a guy like Poche and tell him to come back to LSU because 14 rounders aren't likely to make it. When you're drafted doesn't change the player. If he comes back and gets picked in the 6th it doesn't mean he's any more likely to make it. If he improves that much at LSU, he'd improve that much in the minors. It just becomes a question of where you'd like to spend your time while hopefully getting better.
I'm not suggesting you're saying otherwise, I'm just making a point about later picks who have to make the choice.
This post was edited on 6/11/16 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 6/11/16 at 2:33 pm to slackster
I see your point, I am wondering the value of a degree to a 4th+ rounder.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 3:08 pm to tigbit
It matters the slot and how much a team will pay above it.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 3:12 pm to tigbit
quote:Well remember it's not necessarily an either or thing. Many of them can go to school in the fall and hopefully aren't far from graduating in the first place. It's also plausible that coming back cost a player money as even if they improve, their leverage goes away.
I see your point, I am wondering the value of a degree to a 4th+ rounder.
Now a draft eligible sophomore is an entirely different story IMO. Those guys are in great shape.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 3:13 pm to tigbit
Riley pint finna sign with lsu. Screw that Colorado life
Posted on 6/11/16 at 3:24 pm to slackster
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nearly 100% of guys who don't sign will make it.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 3:29 pm to The Boat
Yeah that quip was ripped right off of a Captain Obvious motivational poster.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 3:37 pm to slackster
So as a jr, they will probably offer him the max of 100k for the pick. If he was a sr they normally offer between 1k and 10k. Being that he plays baseball he probably doesn't have very much scholarship. So your thought process literally makes no sense. You don't leave money on the table like that.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 3:39 pm to iamAG
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So as a jr, they will probably offer him the max of 100k for the pick. If he was a sr they normally offer between 1k and 10k. Being that he plays baseball he probably doesn't have very much scholarship. So your thought process literally makes no sense. You don't leave money on the table like that.
Que?
Did you mean to respond to me? I'm making a similar point.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 3:51 pm to iamAG
A little of topic...
The first MLB draft was held in 1965. The first player selected was Rick Monday by the Kansas City Athletics.
The first MLB draft was held in 1965. The first player selected was Rick Monday by the Kansas City Athletics.
Posted on 6/11/16 at 3:58 pm to slackster
No. Just clicked. I rarely worry about who it's is addressed to.
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