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Did not playing the McNeese game hurt our bowl position?

Posted on 12/6/15 at 3:18 pm
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31924 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 3:18 pm
Unranked UT gets the Outback bowl at 8-4.

Unranked UGA gets the former Gator bowl at 9-3 with no coach.

#19 UF loses to us and gets the Citrus bowl at 10-3.


Yet we are in the Texas Bowl.

Ultimately Id take the texas bowl over the Taxslayer bowl. It loses all the history and prestige when they take away the gator name, but the other two are obviously better. Personally I am far more likely to go to it over ANY of the above due to proximaty, but what gives?

Is it the fact that we have "one less win" than the others? Is it that Alleva has no backbone when it comes to bowl negotiations? Is it the SEC screwing us again?

How does this happen, year in year out we go to a bowl that doesnt fit what was earned comparatively?


Ultimately these crap bowls dont matter, its just frustrating to see us routinely get the screw job.
Posted by LSUholddatTiga
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2015
292 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 3:19 pm to
No, losing to a less talented Arkansas/Ole Miss team sure did.
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
47511 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 3:19 pm to
I don't think so. I think it hurt LF7 more for post-season awards, though.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31924 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 3:21 pm to
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No, losing to a less talented Arkansas/Ole Miss team sure did.



How is that in any way relevant to comparing the above resumes.

Those hurt our ability to get a NY6/playoff spot.

We win one of those were in the Sugar.

This is in regards to us being below unranked teams who have bad losses on their resumes just like we do.
Posted by LSUFANDAY1
Member since Jan 2005
2500 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 3:22 pm to
no getting your arse handed to you by ole piss ark and ala hurt your bowl position
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41208 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 3:23 pm to
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Unranked UT gets the Outback bowl at 8-4.


last time LSU fans didn't go to the Outback bowl

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Unranked UGA gets the former Gator bowl at 9-3 with no coach.


Texas bowl's payout is greater than Gator

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#19 UF loses to us and gets the Citrus bowl at 10-3.



won the East, is ranked higher, more wins
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31924 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 3:27 pm to
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won the East, is ranked higher, more wins



Yes this is the question though. If we were sitting 9-3 coming off a win vs TAMU wouldnt we be more attractive than UF who has lost 2 straight, the last win in OT vs a 2-9 FAU team and an offense even worse than ours? Especially vs UM with the history with Miles?


BTW thanks for actually examining the question. This wasnt a thread to cont. to bitch about Miles or moan about our losses. All those horses have been beat to death.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18142 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 3:28 pm to
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Ultimately these crap bowls dont matter, its just frustrating to see us routinely get the screw job.


Screwed? Really?

We got destroyed in 3 of our last 4 games, and looked terrible again offensively in our win over A&M.

Personally I couldn't care less what bowl we go to now. The season ended very badly and I'm emotionally done. I'm afraid the players might be also.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31924 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 3:29 pm to
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Screwed? Really?


When you look at the evidence we have been under placed per comparing resumes every year since 2011.
This post was edited on 12/6/15 at 3:30 pm
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20427 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 3:33 pm to
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no getting your arse handed to you by ole piss ark and ala hurt your bowl position
quote:

No, that dumbass Miles is what hurt our bowl position
No, our incredibly whiny and bitchy "fanbase" hurt our bowl position. None of the Florida bowls would touch us because absolutely nobody would likely travel. To them, we're toxic.

Texas Bowl, on the other hand, is in Houston, where there's a large LSU alumni base. We'll probably have a solid turnout there, just from the locals.
Posted by GeauxToBed
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2015
6113 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 3:45 pm to
Maybe because we never win our bowl games, the SEC tried to match us up against a weak team in a game we may actually have a chance to win?

Maybe they didn't feel we could beat Michigan or Florida State and are trying to spare our fanbase further embarrassment?

(I know this isn't the real reason, but maybe we should prove we can win a bowl game before crying about not being invited to a prestigious one. Win this one convincingly and take that momentum into next year. With a good showing in 2016, we'll have a much stronger case for the postseason.

Losing 3 of 4 by double digits doesn't give us much room to complain.)
Posted by FlatLakeTiger
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2015
2612 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 3:56 pm to
Yes, it probably did. It also cost Fournette the Heisman. He'd have been over 2000 yards.
Posted by Cannon
Shreveport
Member since May 2015
1617 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 3:59 pm to
Unfortunately, yes. LSU continues year after year to get hosed when it comes to bowl selection. You would hope whoever makes these calls would factor in us getting passed over such as year in peach where we were told "don't worry, you'll get priority next time as well as W over McNeese this year to be 9-3. Unfortunately nobody in authority at LSU has the balls or clout to call this to attention.
Posted by 1609tiger
Member since Feb 2011
3234 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 4:01 pm to
No we finished like crap and think the bowls are aware that LSU fans have had it and aren't buying tickets.
Posted by LSUFANDAY1
Member since Jan 2005
2500 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 4:04 pm to
yea our fan base has everything to do with where we go in a bowl game good lord the miles backers getting desperate
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203088 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 4:05 pm to
What makes you think ole miss isn't more talented than than lsu???? 38-17 sure made me think they do.
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
32496 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 4:06 pm to
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Yes, it probably did. It also cost Fournette the Heisman.

no it didn't.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20427 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 5:55 pm to
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yea our fan base has everything to do with where we go in a bowl game
Yes, you genius, they want to fill seats in the stadium. It's historically the reason LSU is popular (fans travel well), but also the reason we don't get picked to go some places (we didn't travel well to that particular bowl). There are some programs known to travel better than others, and if all other things are equal, bowls want the better travelling team. It looks better on TV and leads to a better atmosphere.

In this case, it's pretty obvious that our fans aren't going to shell out and go somewhere, because they're miserably unhappy. However, a game in Houston would actually be even more convenient than one in BR for a lot of our alumni, so it's got a lot better chance to fill seats.
This post was edited on 12/6/15 at 5:58 pm
Posted by TigerinKorea
Member since Aug 2014
8290 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 6:24 pm to
No, getting our asses kicked by Ole Miss, Arkansas, and Alabama did.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20427 posts
Posted on 12/6/15 at 7:05 pm to
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No, getting our asses kicked by Ole Miss, Arkansas, and Alabama did
Alabama is in the playoffs, Ole Miss in the Sugar. We're talking pecking order in the mid-range bowls, not going to an elite bowl here.

UGA is going to the Taxslayer in Jacksonville, despite getting their asses kicked by Alabama 38-10, Florida 27-3, losing a close one to Tennessee, and firing their head coach.

Texas Bowl is made for LSU, A&M and Arkansas. Nobody from the East would travel well.
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