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Did LSU fans feel slighted when Paul Dietzel bolted for Army & later USCe?

Posted on 1/21/17 at 9:42 pm
Posted by radicalizedtigah
Member since Aug 2016
3495 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 9:42 pm
That was a little before my time, but he never seemed beloved by LSU fans even though he coached our first National Champion Team.
This post was edited on 1/21/17 at 9:49 pm
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41196 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 9:45 pm to
He didn't, he left for Army.
Posted by Violent Tally
Member since Aug 2014
1084 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 9:46 pm to
I think he "bolted" for Army.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20340 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 9:51 pm to
Also, SCAR wasn't in the SEC. So I doubt anybody really gave a shite...
Posted by blackjackjackson
fourth dimension
Member since May 2008
7674 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 9:52 pm to
i was young. i was surprised and confused.

i was pissed!
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34680 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 9:56 pm to
That was at the end of Army's run as a big-time program, but no one knew it yet.
Posted by miketiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2005
1676 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 9:58 pm to
It was even worse than Saban leaving.
Posted by bobbyleewilliams
Tigertown
Member since Feb 2010
8267 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 10:02 pm to
quote:

even though he coached our first National Champion Team.

I was like 12 years old when he left but I remember
a lot of people upset because he had put LSU football back
in the limelight.
Posted by johnnydrama
Possibly Trashy
Member since Feb 2010
8710 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

It was even worse than Saban leaving.

I don't know who down-voted this but it is the truth.

When Saban left everyone was disappointed but could understand the leap to the NFL. It wasn't like he went straight to 'bama.

When Dietzel left foe Army people were pissed because it was another college team.





Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17319 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 11:45 pm to
Back then, when a service academy asked you to come, you accept their offer. It was an honor to serve back then.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
12358 posts
Posted on 1/21/17 at 11:50 pm to
Hell yes they felt slighted when he left for West Point, especially after proclaiming that he would never leave LSU. It did not work out for him there. When he went to USCe, he was on the rebound, a rebound that never came. His first game as USCe coach was a loss to LSU in Tiger Stadium in 1966. I was 8 years old and that was my 1st year as an LSU season ticket holder. The Dietzel game was the only game I missed that year. I guess some adult wanted to take my ticket. I celebrated my Golden Jubilee on Oct. 1, 2016, the night of Coach O's debut. I had a chance to meet Dietzel several times when he was AD. He was very charismatic and I could see why he was a successful motivator. Dietzel later said that leaving LSU was the biggest mistake he ever made in his life and I believe him.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
12358 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 12:12 am to
I remember a great line by a Sports Illustrated writer who Dietzel was having a feud with. It may have been a stretch but it was a great line worthy of a modern day Trump tweet. He wrote that Dietzel had more to do with the downfall of Army football than the Viet Nam War.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 5:30 am to
quote:

Back then, when a service academy asked you to come, you accept their offer. It was an honor to serve back then.


I don't think that's the case at all. Coaches weren't rushing to coach at Army.
Dietzel had a history with them after serving on the staff of legendary Red Blaik. He didn't leave to "Serve".

There were rumors of extrinsic factors in Dietzel leaving. People were very upset. He was "Pepsodent Paul" and was a golden boy.
Posted by deaconscholar
Conyers, GA
Member since Nov 2008
245 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 6:55 am to
Yes we did. When he returned with South Carolina a few years later, the crowd (for the most part) was silent when the USC team came on to the field before the game. A few boos, fewer cheers (USC fans), mostly silence. I remember that night quite clearly.
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
20281 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 7:09 am to
I was a sophomore at LSU then. It was a shock and there was a lot of bitterness. After the NC year the alumni had given Dietzel a swimming pool at his house rather than a new car which "he could drive away in". The game against SC was labeled "D-Day".
Posted by Lou the Jew from LSU
Member since Oct 2006
4706 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 7:22 am to
Fans felt anger. I was young but my dad cussed a blue streak. Even though army was relevant then, my father said it was a dead end.
Of course, he having been a navy Seabee during wwII may had a little to do with that!
Posted by mayhaw
Hobe Sound, Florida
Member since Sep 2015
26 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 7:58 am to
hide the women. paul dietzel and jim Corbett were popular. Corbett was shot outside or inside a traveler motel in 1966. draw your own picture.
Posted by RedlandsTiger
Greenwell Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2008
2939 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 8:04 am to
quote:

That was at the end of Army's run as a big-time program, but no one knew it yet.


Yep, Army and Navy football teams were like Notre Dame then, Big Time Football.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
1205 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 8:16 am to
According to a radio interview that Dietzel gave around 2008 (I believe), the night before the 1962 Orange Bowl the President of LSU Gen Troy Middleton told Ditzel it was his duty to his country to accept the coaching position at Army.

Dietzel was the first non West Point Graduate to Coach the Army Team.
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 1/22/17 at 8:32 am to
Total bullshite.
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