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re: Did Anyone Really Expect CEO To Run The Table Last Year......8-0?????
Posted on 7/26/17 at 5:26 pm to Madking
Posted on 7/26/17 at 5:26 pm to Madking
They are part of 2016, but he did not coach a full season(that he didn't finish the season because he was fired is irrelevant to the calculation ONLY to the calculation). So for wins per season you either count 2016 as a partial season 1/3 in his case or just ignore it, counting it as a full season is misleading and inaccurate. Just as counting 6 wins for O in 16 as a season would be misleading and lower his avg as well (hopefully)
Miles overall record was 114-34 a .770 winning percentage. Now if I was to say his wp was .777 then I would be twisting things by dismissing his 2-2 2016 record. But saying he avg 10 wins for his career is not twisting things it's what he did in his 11 full seasons and if you count 17 as 1/3 which it was. Total record, winning percentage and hardware are much more important imo than avg per season, that's just a rough outline.
Miles overall record was 114-34 a .770 winning percentage. Now if I was to say his wp was .777 then I would be twisting things by dismissing his 2-2 2016 record. But saying he avg 10 wins for his career is not twisting things it's what he did in his 11 full seasons and if you count 17 as 1/3 which it was. Total record, winning percentage and hardware are much more important imo than avg per season, that's just a rough outline.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 5:28 pm
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 5:30 pm to BayouBengals18
If he coached in 16 that season is factored into his avgs. Those wins have to go somewhere you don't do what H- town is suggesting in any other situation but he likes Miles and that's the only reason why. When a player is cut mid season that seasons stats are still included in his career avges when any other coach is fired mid season the same is true he's trying to make an exception for Miles only.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 5:31 pm to Madking
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. If you're not man enough to own up to what you posted
I own up to everything I've posted, that you won't show me where I put words in you mouth is what's telling.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 5:32 pm to H-Town Tiger
You just said it and you didn't even realize it. "Full seasons" that's how you should describe what you're saying because the final and total avg is 9.5 because of 2016. It's no different than a player being cut mid season dunno why you won't acknowledge that.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 7/26/17 at 5:35 pm to H-Town Tiger
You put words in my mouth by concluding that what I said meant every game Miles didn't coach in for 2016 counted as a loss on his record. I never said or suggested that in any way.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 7/26/17 at 5:35 pm to Madking
This thread needs to go away....
Just sayin....
Just sayin....
Posted on 7/26/17 at 5:44 pm to Kedwards1
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Really? Miles would have finished 10-3 IF the mcnese game had been finished.
Agreed...but here's a kicker. If O is coaching the entire season in 16, I dont think we lose to Wisky and the Barners. I really think he could have taken that team to 10-2...even with smoke and mirrors at QB. Call me crazy and down vote away!!!!
Posted on 7/26/17 at 5:46 pm to Madking
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If he coached in 16 that season is factored into his avgs. Those wins have to go somewhere you don't do what H- town is suggesting in any other situation but he likes Miles and that's the only reason why. When a player is cut mid season that seasons stats are still included in his career avges when any other coach is fired mid season the same is true he's trying to make an exception for Miles only.
Factored in yes counting it as an entire season no, and it has nothing to do with liking Miles, you are the one that seems to dislikes him, I don't like or dislike him, O, DiNardo or any other coach I just judge them on their record and don't try to distort it like you are doing.
With players who looks at avg what ever per season? You look at the raw numbers, maybe avg per game for exactly the reason that they may miss a season with injuries or a baseball player gets called up in September we don't count that as a full season. There are baseball players that played in the World Series then are in the running for Rookie of the Year the FOLLOWING year because they didn't have enough innings pitched or at bats or whatever metric they used.
But if you want to say Miles coached 12 seasons and won 114 so he didn't avg 10 a year fine You better do the same for O, who is avg 6 wins a year. That's terrible since LSU has not had fewer than 8 wins in ANY season since 1999
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 7/26/17 at 5:51 pm to Madking
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You put words in my mouth by concluding that what I said meant every game Miles didn't coach in for 2016 counted as a loss on his record. I never said or suggested that in any way.
Except I didn't say that. SportTiger1 said that on the bottom of page 12. If i could upload a screenshot I would
Posted on 7/26/17 at 5:57 pm to H-Town Tiger
I don't want to say it that's the fact of the matter. You keep saying you don't like or dislike Miles but it's terrible to tell the truth about his record and I better treat others the same way. If that's not favoring someone then there's no such thing as bias. You're a very dishonest person.
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If you'll notice Adrian Peterson has 11,747 yards in 10 seasons he doesn't get a pass for 2016 or 2014 because he was hurt and only played a few games it counts against his yards per year avg. But in Miles case you want different rules because he didn't coach a full slate of games last season. That's the definition of bias.
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If you'll notice Adrian Peterson has 11,747 yards in 10 seasons he doesn't get a pass for 2016 or 2014 because he was hurt and only played a few games it counts against his yards per year avg. But in Miles case you want different rules because he didn't coach a full slate of games last season. That's the definition of bias.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 5:59 pm to H-Town Tiger
That's right you didn't it was sports I'd apologize but you're an a-hole.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 6:02 pm to Madking
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that's how you should describe what you're saying because the final and total avg is 9.5 because of 2016. It's no different than a player being cut mid season dunno why you won't acknowledge that.
When a player's season is cut short, for whatever reason, whatever you're looking at will 99.9% of the time have some sort of notation stating how many games said player appeared in. While you would say that Les was the coach from 05-16, you would have to clarify that he was fired 4 games into the season.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 6:02 pm to Goldrush25
The comparison makes sense if we're going to say O can't sustain success because he's not a coordinator and will always depend on coordinators
I'm not saying they're the same kind of coach Or will have the same kind of success.
And since you bring up ships that have sailed
Should we have hired O
He failed at Ole Piss
We should've won the Florida game
Couldn't even score points on Bama
(Basically the same dead horses that have been beaten over and over daily on the Rant)
I find it sad that we can't just get behind the new coach because his success means our success
I'm not saying they're the same kind of coach Or will have the same kind of success.
And since you bring up ships that have sailed
Should we have hired O
He failed at Ole Piss
We should've won the Florida game
Couldn't even score points on Bama
(Basically the same dead horses that have been beaten over and over daily on the Rant)
I find it sad that we can't just get behind the new coach because his success means our success
Posted on 7/26/17 at 6:06 pm to BayouBengals18
They have a stat column for the amount of games played and that's a normal thing. Games shows up in coaching stats too. A better comparison would probly be Coach K since he's had seasons where he's missed games.
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No astrik by his shortened seasons. Nothing wrong with adding context but in sports it doesn't change the totals or avges, in sports it's do or don't when it comes to accomplishments and avgs. If we started with excuses like that we'd be opening Pandora's box.
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No astrik by his shortened seasons. Nothing wrong with adding context but in sports it doesn't change the totals or avges, in sports it's do or don't when it comes to accomplishments and avgs. If we started with excuses like that we'd be opening Pandora's box.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 6:10 pm
Posted on 7/26/17 at 6:07 pm to BayouBengals18
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So y'all are basically arguing semantics?
Very weak semantics at that.
Fact is, miles did not coach here 12 full years.
This is a made up stat that is based solely on common sense. He'll never concede this, which is pretty crazy.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 6:08 pm to Madking
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If he coached in 16 that season is factored into his avgs
shite man, did Les bang your wife?
Les coached 11 and a third seasons at LSU and won 114 games. That comes out to an average of ten wins a years.
Get over it and more on.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 6:08 pm to BayouBengals18
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So y'all are basically arguing semantics?
Not exactly, MadO is trying to diminish Miles record by saying he didn't avg 10 wins a year because he coached 12 seasons coaching 2016 which would bring his avg to 9.5
By that standard O is avg 6 wins which Les less than both Mike Archer and Gerry DiNardo. Or Clay Helton who coached the Bowl in 2013 and then took over for 4 games in Sark in 15. He now has 16 wins at USC, which would be 5.33 per year using his standard. Do you think that gives an accurate view of his record?
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You can't reward the guy for being fired that's bias and that's what H-town is doing
No I'm not, I'm not counting 4 games a full season just like I wouldn't count 8 as a full season for O because they are not.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 6:10 pm to H-Town Tiger
114 ÷ 11.333
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 6:11 pm to LSU Groupee
Lmao sorry you can't deal with reality you're giving special treatment to someone based on emotional attachment and nothing els. It's a simple fact vs emotion argument I've provided multiple examples of this same thing with other ppl that have never been questioned but now that we are talking about Miles you ppl are changing the rules. 11 and a 1/3 season lmfao first time ever used in season avges.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 7/26/17 at 6:15 pm to Madking
So O coached in 2016 and has only 6 wins. And 2013 at USC as well.
.500 is the worst season since the 90s. Fire his arse NOW
.500 is the worst season since the 90s. Fire his arse NOW
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