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Crowton and his option calls - An Inquiry
Posted on 9/7/10 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 9/7/10 at 8:32 pm
OK you offensive coordinators, what are the positives and negatives of continuing to run the option as part of your offensive scheme.
Is it just to occupy a spot in the play series to set up another play?
Is it in hopes that one day it will really pay off and we will actually convert it in a meaningful way?
When GC goes to the film room, week after week after week, and continues to see how ineffective it is, and then proceeds to continue to run it at critical points in the football game, what is this man thinking?
Is it just to occupy a spot in the play series to set up another play?
Is it in hopes that one day it will really pay off and we will actually convert it in a meaningful way?
When GC goes to the film room, week after week after week, and continues to see how ineffective it is, and then proceeds to continue to run it at critical points in the football game, what is this man thinking?
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 8:34 pm to therocketscientist
It lets JJ wear down the D with all the heavy hits?
Posted on 9/7/10 at 8:34 pm to therocketscientist
quote:1. it never works
negatives
2. it doesn't even force the defense to make a tackle, we tackle ourselves by running out of bounds
quote:we don't get tackled by a person
positives
This post was edited on 9/7/10 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 9/7/10 at 8:35 pm to therocketscientist
I don't remember it being to effective last night, but I do remember Jefferson running it a little better than he did last year. 
Posted on 9/7/10 at 8:36 pm to Ford Frenzy
ehh.. i think he just runs it bc he doesn't know what other play to call... Just one of those fill in plays lol
Posted on 9/7/10 at 8:39 pm to therocketscientist
This ought to be very entertaining. My take is that he is in way over his head and does not belong in the SEC much less any D1 major school. It is obvious he does not have much of a play book(a couple of pages) and of that is the most basic plain junk. Why he is still here and getting raises is beyond me.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 8:39 pm to therocketscientist
I would also like to know how challenging it is for the O-line to execute. The blocking scheme has to be different and they only run it a handful of times a game. This may also be a reason for its lack of success.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 8:43 pm to DowntheBayouTiger
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ehh.. i think he just runs it bc he doesn't know what other play to call... Just one of those fill in plays lol
I 100% believe this and it makes me sad. It literally is a wasted play every time. Every fricking time. It's amazing.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 8:48 pm to DowntheBayouTiger
Gets nervous and don't know what else to call
Posted on 9/7/10 at 8:54 pm to therocketscientist
It keeps him employed. Boss says run it, he runs it.
Don't you think the head coach is involved in the game planning. Don't they practice a series plays during the week that the staff believes will be successful for the defense they expect to see on Saturday.
Don't you think the head coach is involved in the game planning. Don't they practice a series plays during the week that the staff believes will be successful for the defense they expect to see on Saturday.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 8:59 pm to Frankie Knuckles
It is amazing that JJ does not have the football savy to run the option. It is really embarrassing to see him even attempt it. It appears as he has no idea of the needed spacing, the timing, the angles, just absolutely nothing to do with properly running an option. But, that in a nutshell is his main problem - he has raw talent but no football "savy" to go with it.
Its like having to teach a youngster how to take an angle to a running back so you can tackle him at a contact point - you dont simply run straight at your target. (Some kids actually never grasp this - luke sanders was one). Those things really "cant be taught".
I really dont think JJ has the savy to be a good QB. (but I certainly hope he does).
Its like having to teach a youngster how to take an angle to a running back so you can tackle him at a contact point - you dont simply run straight at your target. (Some kids actually never grasp this - luke sanders was one). Those things really "cant be taught".
I really dont think JJ has the savy to be a good QB. (but I certainly hope he does).
Posted on 9/7/10 at 9:00 pm to roygu
quote:
It keeps him employed. Boss says run it, he runs
It is just unconscionable. You watch the option fail over and over again, and you insist that at some point the skies are going to clear and it will suddenly and magically work?
Posted on 9/7/10 at 9:05 pm to therocketscientist
Positive - is that the more JJ runs the option the greater chance of J. Lee getting some playing time.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 9:08 pm to Ford Frenzy
quote:JJ gets his head taken off and gains 3 yards. /thread
negatives
Posted on 9/7/10 at 9:11 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
you run it a couple of times a game just to make your opponent prepare for it
Posted on 9/7/10 at 9:16 pm to therocketscientist
Run it with Shepard at qb=positive
Everything else is a negative!!
Everything else is a negative!!
Posted on 9/7/10 at 9:20 pm to the LSUSaint
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you run it a couple of times a game just to make your opponent prepare for it
Exactly.
If it ever were to work.... I don't think I will be happy. Because then we will run it that much more
Posted on 9/7/10 at 9:20 pm to roygu
Jordan Jefferson doesnt understand the basic plan of the option. Because he keeps it 80-90 percent of the time and opposing defenses dont respect it.
And when he does pitch it he is 5 feet from the sideline.
The option is an attack play not a passive run to the sideline and out of bounds play.
Jefferson doesnt attack the corner. He doesnt know when to pitch and it coincides with making quick desisions of which he struggles.
Jordan Jefferson has skills that i just dont understand why we dont use better.
Jordan jefferson should be a rollout qb given the option to tuck it.
If we are going to run him put him in situations where it is just a run and he picks up the yards he can get and go back to the huddle. QB draws from the shotgun. Roll Outs.
I dont remember us throwing a crossing pattern or 10 to 15 yard hook or many rb screens out of the backfield.
RB screens are confidence builders to a qb and help get in a rhythem.
I really dont want LSU to run the option. We have 2 and only 2 experienced and capable qb's this year and you are risking getting our current starter hurt.
What ever happenned to a toss quick sweep and flares from the backfield.
Our offense has many weapons and qb is the key to unlocking the door.
And when he does pitch it he is 5 feet from the sideline.
The option is an attack play not a passive run to the sideline and out of bounds play.
Jefferson doesnt attack the corner. He doesnt know when to pitch and it coincides with making quick desisions of which he struggles.
Jordan Jefferson has skills that i just dont understand why we dont use better.
Jordan jefferson should be a rollout qb given the option to tuck it.
If we are going to run him put him in situations where it is just a run and he picks up the yards he can get and go back to the huddle. QB draws from the shotgun. Roll Outs.
I dont remember us throwing a crossing pattern or 10 to 15 yard hook or many rb screens out of the backfield.
RB screens are confidence builders to a qb and help get in a rhythem.
I really dont want LSU to run the option. We have 2 and only 2 experienced and capable qb's this year and you are risking getting our current starter hurt.
What ever happenned to a toss quick sweep and flares from the backfield.
Our offense has many weapons and qb is the key to unlocking the door.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 9:20 pm to therocketscientist
quote:
When GC goes to the film room, week after week after week, and continues to see how ineffective it is, and then proceeds to continue to run it at critical points in the football game, what is this man thinking?
Fair criticism. It has rarely if ever produced worthwhile yardage.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 9:21 pm to the LSUSaint
It fails because JJ doesn't stay in the lane he is suppose to. He runs wide to avoid contact and then he his right on the running backs hip. The freaking defensive lines to the ball do not change after the pitch because of this... so they have no adjustment to make.
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