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re: Congrats Crowton!
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:56 am to ultratiger89
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:56 am to ultratiger89
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how do you know that? who told you that? you can't possibly know that just from a facial expression.....look at Spurriers face, he looks like he is pissed off all the time, but you know he's not
clearly this guy has extraordinary powers that you don't possess, drop it
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:58 am to Stevo
B.S. Crowton is only limited because of his lack of knowlege in designing an offense with some of the most talented players in america. He has had two years to bring a QB around with some of the best recruits that could be found. Jefferson's confusion is Crowtons problem. He is paid to teach, train and mentor him to the abilities and scheme he wants to run. Don't discount the talent that he fails to consistently use both on and off the field. Outside of a couple of sec schools, there is not one offensive coordinator in the country who would have loved to have had his problem.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:58 am to Stevo
I can't believe you're defending Crowton. Lee was thrown to the wolves last year and the play calling this year has been horrendous. Crowton is a terrible coach and needs to be replaced immediately. I only hope Miles replaces him with someone who puts an emphasis on developing young quarterbacks.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 10:59 am to ulmtiger
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only limited because of his lack of knowlege in designing an offense with some of the most talented players in america
quote:get a good one
developing young quarterbacks.
what games have you been watching
This post was edited on 11/29/09 at 11:01 am
Posted on 11/29/09 at 11:00 am to Come2Conquer
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That's the bar with QB's now?
It should be. My position is that a team has very little chance for success at the BCS level unless you have a draft worthy QB. Not a QB who will star in the pro's, but at least drafted. Looking back, LSU had a great run of having it's QB's drafted.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 11:02 am to Stevo
I think that's a bit steep and a bit too much to expect out of that position year in and year out.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 11:03 am to stompinleo
Look at the UGA game.
If Jefferson could duplicate just one thing:
His ability to shoot forward out of the pocket when the play breaks down, we could be so dangerous. He saved us against UGA when he ran 26 yards to a first down.
He is trying to make a play when he holds onto the ball. He is still elusive for a qb and should use that characteristic.
Remember, even if he only gains two yards, it is better than a 6 yard sack. We would have less drive killing sacks if:
He does what Crowton tells him to, RUN!
Or if he does what is natural for an athletic qb.
Question:
IS Crowton telling him to run or throw it out of bounds?
If Jefferson could duplicate just one thing:
His ability to shoot forward out of the pocket when the play breaks down, we could be so dangerous. He saved us against UGA when he ran 26 yards to a first down.
He is trying to make a play when he holds onto the ball. He is still elusive for a qb and should use that characteristic.
Remember, even if he only gains two yards, it is better than a 6 yard sack. We would have less drive killing sacks if:
He does what Crowton tells him to, RUN!
Or if he does what is natural for an athletic qb.
Question:
IS Crowton telling him to run or throw it out of bounds?
Posted on 11/29/09 at 11:05 am to josh336
quote:
clearly this guy has extraordinary powers that you don't possess
clearly
quote:
drop it
why? it's hard to sit calmly by while someone makes such and asinine comment.........
Posted on 11/29/09 at 11:10 am to Come2Conquer
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I think that's a bit steep and a bit too much to expect out of that position year in and year out.
I agree it's too much to expect every year, but I do believe that you have to develop your program to produce draft worthy QB's to have a chance to compete for a BCS title. It was too much to expect of Lee last year, and JJ this year. My problem is that I saw very little in JJ which leads me to believe that he'll ever develop into a draft worthy QB.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 11:11 am to dstone12
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He does what Crowton tells him to, RUN!
He does this because he lacks the poise to find his WR's.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 11:13 am to dstone12
quote:
Look at the UGA game.
If Jefferson could duplicate just one thing:
His ability to shoot forward out of the pocket when the play breaks down, we could be so dangerous. He saved us against UGA when he ran 26 yards to a first down.
He is trying to make a play when he holds onto the ball. He is still elusive for a qb and should use that characteristic.
Remember, even if he only gains two yards, it is better than a 6 yard sack. We would have less drive killing sacks if:
He does what Crowton tells him to, RUN!
Or if he does what is natural for an athletic qb.
Question:
IS Crowton telling him to run or throw it out of bounds?
no ...Crowton is telling him to lock on one receiver, take a sack and put us out of field goal range, make wrong reads, not learn his checks, to over throw critical passes....he is not a very good QB..he is a good athlete who is playing QB...that is it...
This post was edited on 11/29/09 at 11:14 am
Posted on 11/29/09 at 11:15 am to Stevo
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My problem is that I saw very little in JJ which leads me to believe that he'll ever develop into a draft worthy QB.
Agreed; I doubt even with some polishing that he'd ever be considered for the NFL. However, I do think that some of his mechanics are correctable and I do think that with that, along with some other offensive overhauls, that LSU can compete for titles with JJ at QB.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 11:20 am to stompinleo
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no ...Crowton is telling him to lock on one receiver, take a sack and put us out of field goal range, make wrong reads, not learn his checks, to over throw critical passes
another completely asinine post in this thread, you really believe he's telling him to do the wrong things? how stupid can one person be?
Posted on 11/29/09 at 11:28 am to ultratiger89
quote:uhhhh i was being sarcastic....
another completely asinine post in this thread, you really believe he's telling him to do the wrong things? how stupid can one person be?
Posted on 11/29/09 at 11:29 am to stompinleo
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uhhhh i was being sarcastic....
Certainly you were. But the flipside is that coaching should also improve individual technique.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 11:31 am to Come2Conquer
quote:i completely agree...but you have to have a QB who can grasp what your trying to teach him..
But the flipside is that coaching should also improve individual technique.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 11:34 am to Night Train
Your the clown.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 11:37 am to stompinleo
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but you have to have a QB who can grasp what your trying to teach him..
Yep, and I hope JJ can and will. After this season, it might be 6 of one and a half dozen of the other.
But, I'll support him and I have seen good things from him, if not just terribly inconsistently. A more pressing concern is that there's really no one else that can be thrown into that position at this time.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 11:38 am to Come2Conquer
quote:+1
Yep, and I hope JJ can and will. After this season, it might be 6 of one and a half dozen of the other.
But, I'll support him and I have seen good things from him, if not just terribly inconsistently. A more pressing concern is that there's really no one else that can be thrown into that position at this time.
Posted on 11/29/09 at 11:41 am to stompinleo
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uhhhh i was being sarcastic....
maybe one of them smiley faces might have pointed that out. all the attacks on the coaches and players on this board it's hard to tell when someone is being sarcastic or not, and you have these people on here who think they can read minds and know what the coaches are telling the players and all that shite is completely asinine.......
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