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Complaints about the offense

Posted on 11/9/15 at 12:16 am
Posted by Jesterea
Member since Nov 2011
1044 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 12:16 am
I'm absolutely astounded by the amount of attention that has been placed on this. The simple matter is, we got beat on things like fundamentals and execution. Harris missed some throws, linemen were getting blown up, and in all that, Fournette was not going to find a hole.

Our offense has worked well all season. We have plenty of points and yards that speak to it being the stronger point of this team, and I think Cam has done an exellent job this year.

When it comes down to it, it's mental in this game and will be until our fortune changes. There were no plays that were going to win last night. Harris connects on a pass instead throwing that pick, I think he connects on a few more, and then maybe the run opens up. Who knows. I think it's clear that they were trying to adjust, but the line just started getting dominated.

I just don't want this fictional thing about the playcalling to cloud the real problem.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24272 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 12:23 am to
We had other issues last night like you mentioned, but the play calling is a problem for LSU against Bama. We haven't scored 20 points on them in the last 6 games and haven't had one 20-yard run against them in the last six games. Every team in the west has scored 20 on them at least once in that time frame (and three teams have scored 40+ in that time).
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61270 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 12:29 am to
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The simple matter is, we got beat on things like fundamentals and execution


Youre right, and there are few teams who execute everything every game, so why run an offense that depends on perfect execution? It makes no sense. These are kids with limited practice time, and you expect them to run simple Jack offense to a T?


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Harris connects on a pass instead throwing that pick, I think he connects on a few more, and then maybe the run opens up.


So Foster Moreau was going to change the entire outcome of the game with a 3 yard catch?


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I think it's clear that they were trying to adjust, but the line just started getting dominated.



If the LSU coaches were shocked by the Bama DL performance then we need to reevaluate everything in that entire stupid arse complex.

Adjusting did not happen. Hence the continuous smashing into 9 man fronts with 9 1st round superhuman mutants over and over and over again.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68640 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 12:32 am to
I commented the mental aspect bothered me. That could be the downfall. Wanting to win so bad since the bcs title leads to players making mistakes instead of executing the plays.
Posted by Jesterea
Member since Nov 2011
1044 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 12:37 am to
That's just it. Usually they have other problems, like most teams. But it's like they ratchet up the discipline level to the extreme for one game. Tennessee? The Tide will do what they need to. Ole miss? Early rode block, quickly move on past.

Look at the difference between are backers and theirs last night. They stay in their gaps. It's like a wall. Even if Fournette makes a move, there will be a guy right there. There were lapses in coverage for Bama, but the aggression they hammered our line with was just something different than what they've done this year.

Maybe it's paranoia, or a sign of being bamassesed, but I think if Saban lost every game on the schedule but one, then he's going to do his damn best to make sure this is it.

And playcalling? We tried running with JJ, short and intermediate passing with Mett, a more balanced approached with Lee, and hammering them with the run last year. We've tried attacking them different ways, it's just not working anyway we try.
Posted by Geauxdhan08
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2015
357 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 12:46 am to
Honestly I'd like more tempo especially after we get a first down. The argument against tempo is usually that you run the risk of hanging the D out to dry but the defense wasn't stopping Henry anyway so why not try something? And by tempo I don't mean hurry up to the line and check with the sideline for 10 seconds I mean be prepared going into the game that "when this personnel of ours is on the field and we go tempo we're going to hurry to one of these few plays"
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24272 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 12:55 am to
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And playcalling? We tried running with JJ, short and intermediate passing with Mett, a more balanced approached with Lee, and hammering them with the run last year. We've tried attacking them different ways, it's just not working anyway we try.


Tbe last time Bama faced something they weren't expecting was during the Game of the Century. Lee was picked twice and we went with JJ and ran option and read plays and Bama wasn't ready for it.

2012 was the only other time we really showed some different looks and passed all over the field. And we were really close to winning that one, but Miles had a few blunders in that one and Chavis' D blew it in the end.
Posted by Jesterea
Member since Nov 2011
1044 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 12:59 am to
Tempo is probably the best argument I've heard for getting a win. I mean, it's usually what Auburn does to get them.
Posted by PaulT78
Lake Charles
Member since Aug 2013
454 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:09 am to
Get the rock to Your playmakers and get the hell out the way. Its too many stud wrs and te's on this team for that piss poor showing. Harris is handcuffed in this offense. Cam Cameron is 137yrs old and calls terrible games. Fournette better run outta BR after next season cause Miles will ride him like a mule. Something has to change. Too many blue chip recruits to get handled by Bama like that.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24272 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:17 am to
I thought we would do some of that too because Saban's whole thing is constant subbing on D. We did the opposite of pushing it. We even had back-to-back delay of games at one point. In the second half down by multiple scores, we were still taking the play clock down to nothing before we snapped the ball.

The actually went uptempo on us early and moved the ball pretty well.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21591 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:33 am to
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If the LSU coaches were shocked by the Bama DL performance then we need to reevaluate everything in that entire stupid arse complex.
It's amazing, isn't it. I'm convinced that we have a four million dollar moron.
Posted by CJH1977
LaPlace
Member since Oct 2015
62 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 7:13 am to
plain and simple Alabama is built to beat lsu nick saban said it his self what do we have dupre for quin Johnson for I will pass the ball every time they are in man coverage leonard will be the second obtion we really need a young offensive guy to get our older guys on point in how to create offensive mismatch I wish we could ask Clemson or ole miss can we borrow there play book only for the bama games
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20751 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 7:19 am to
One thing we could really learn to do is exactly what Saban did when he hired Kiffen - he realized the days of 9-6 wins were a thing of the past and needed to adjust to a more offensive SEC. He hired a young and creative OC and got the hell out of the way. Our coach would be wise to let go of the offense once and for all.
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