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re: comparing Cannon's & OBJ's 89-yard returns
Posted on 11/21/12 at 11:58 pm to Smoke Green
Posted on 11/21/12 at 11:58 pm to Smoke Green
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comparing
Cool picture, but no comparison
Posted on 11/22/12 at 6:55 am to FamousAmos
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All this after the ultimate logic fail of citing a graphic as absolute proof that one player is bigger, stronger and as fast as the other.
And you have proof he didn't run that fast? He was a db among other things dumbass. Just because he was white and it was a long time ago, people are t suppose to be good.
Grow the freak up. Jesse Owens lived in the 30s and killed the hundred yard dash. You have to factor the average time per distance and since ob3 didn't set or come close to setting and records in la, my money is on cannon.
Cannon would run a 10.3 in the 100 meter or faster considering the better shoes, track and techniques taught today.
Ob3 ran in the 22s in the 200. Good time but not gonna win state in 5a and maybe not in 2a, plus these are different events with different techniques.
Posted on 11/22/12 at 6:59 am to FamousAmos
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s incredibly hard to believe that Cannon was easily faster than Usain Bolt.
You people are stupid or really young. Bolt runs 100 m. That is 100 yd. still about a 10.3 on bad tracks with bad shoes. He likely runs close to a 10.1 with better equipment and training not much slower than trindon. And yes he was that fast according to eye witnesses that I know personally. Him beefing up slowed him a little, but made him a lot stronger.
Posted on 11/22/12 at 7:03 am to FamousAmos
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So basically, Billy Cannon was so fast that he could burn Usain Bolt (You know, the only recorded man in history to ever run a 9.58) in the 100, and still have 10 meters left to jog his way to victory?
PLEASE GO BACK TO SCHOOL OR IF YOU ARE IN SCHOOL RETAKE YOUR MATH CLASS!
LA PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM TAKES ANOTHER VICTIM!
Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:11 am to prplhze2000
The man played on all three teams and never came out if the game. Obj and others actually come out during offensive sets after a long play or 2. This dude after the run had to go back in on defense. You people are just ignorant when it comes to stuff like this.
He was is and always will be > athlete than obj. That's nothing against obj because he is a fine player, but he isn't even in the same class as a runner, receiver, db, TE or punt returner that cannon was. All pro, NCAA hof, strong as a bull kinda man.
Now his counterfeiting that was another story. I bet obj doesn't become a dentist either.
So stfu and talk about something you know like halo or some madden game because that is where people like you live and not in reality.
He was is and always will be > athlete than obj. That's nothing against obj because he is a fine player, but he isn't even in the same class as a runner, receiver, db, TE or punt returner that cannon was. All pro, NCAA hof, strong as a bull kinda man.
Now his counterfeiting that was another story. I bet obj doesn't become a dentist either.
So stfu and talk about something you know like halo or some madden game because that is where people like you live and not in reality.
Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:36 am to Jaketigger
Can we be honest and say that the quality of tacklers before integration was considerably less?
Also, I agree that with better nutrition, training, and equipment, cannon would post even faster numbers.
And he was tired. But still, if there were more athletes around, him and his tacklers wouldn't have been so tired.
Either way, cannon's punt return looks like it is in slow motion.
Also, I agree that with better nutrition, training, and equipment, cannon would post even faster numbers.
And he was tired. But still, if there were more athletes around, him and his tacklers wouldn't have been so tired.
Either way, cannon's punt return looks like it is in slow motion.
Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:42 am to quaggy
Cannon played both ways & the run back against O'PISS he broke 6 tackles! Not even close but OBJ's run was a think of beauty! Also the Cannon run was on a really wet field. I was at that game!
Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:48 am to cajunjj
I was the ref, and I could outrun both BC and OB and UB. There. No not really. Both are, were great atheletes, and OB gonna give us more as his career continues. BC was a hoss back in the day, and that's all we need to remember.
Posted on 11/22/12 at 9:54 am to Smoke Green
Nice job on the graphic. Two very different players and two different runs.
Screw Ole Miss!!!!
Screw Ole Miss!!!!
Posted on 11/22/12 at 10:10 am to Smoke Green
Chad Jones return, while not in Tiger Stadium, also worth comparing, waving arm and both returners wore No. 3
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Posted on 11/22/12 at 11:08 am to Smoke Green
cool....you'd think that ole miss would stop punting to the "eleven yard line." guess they're not as smart as they think they are.
stuff da' hogs.
stuff da' hogs.
Posted on 11/22/12 at 11:31 am to Jaketigger
And 4 irate post later, still no one gives a frick about the cool story about your mom or that you once had a friend who saw Billy Cannon run and made a scientific conclusion that he ran pretty fast. That's neat.
I acknowledge that I thought the other poster was talking about the 100 yard dash. The fact still remains, the same source also says Cannon ran a 4.12 forty. Pardon me if I don't believe bullshite when I see it.
In any case, you looked at a 2-D DIAGRAM and came to the Nobel prize winning conclusion that it...
That's what you got from a diagram huh? Get over your Billy Cannon mancrush. It makes you look incredibly stupid and emotionally attached. Anyone can see that the two eras and players are apples and oranges, yet you are using it as "proof" that Cannon is a demi-god.
I acknowledge that I thought the other poster was talking about the 100 yard dash. The fact still remains, the same source also says Cannon ran a 4.12 forty. Pardon me if I don't believe bullshite when I see it.
In any case, you looked at a 2-D DIAGRAM and came to the Nobel prize winning conclusion that it...
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Proved Cannon was and is still a bigger, as fast and stronger player.
That's what you got from a diagram huh? Get over your Billy Cannon mancrush. It makes you look incredibly stupid and emotionally attached. Anyone can see that the two eras and players are apples and oranges, yet you are using it as "proof" that Cannon is a demi-god.
Posted on 11/22/12 at 11:36 am to clamdip
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100 yard dash in 9.4 seconds, etc, etc....
stats should not be pulled from one's rear end.
Posted on 11/22/12 at 12:31 pm to FamousAmos
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I acknowledge that I thought the other poster was talking about the 100 yard dash. The fact still remains, the same source also says Cannon ran a 4.12 forty. Pardon me if I don't believe bull shite when I see it.
Hand timed? I believe it. He ran nearly as fast as trindon. Understand he was a freak of nature.
As one poster acknowledged it was on a wet field.
He had a 10.3 100 meters equivalent. In old arse shoes on those slow as track. Training track and field athletes is something I do know something about co spidering I was a runner and go to as many events as I can every year.
All pro. NCAA hof. Played nearly every down of every game.
I agree it was a different time, but there is one thing about track is it is an individual sport in sprints. You use strategy, but you challenge yourself.
Posted on 11/22/12 at 1:02 pm to White Tiger
God damn there are some idiots in this thread, nobody is trying to say one or the other is better. Just noting the similarities and presenting a cool graphic.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 8:45 am to Jumbeauxlaya
The comment that "before intergration, the quality of tackling was not very good" just goes to show how stupid you are, or incredibly young. Teams' rosters were smaller so the quality of players was not near as deluted as today's are. It was like the old NBA, fewer teams, smaller rosters, made it a lot harder to make the team. Plus players played both ways, there was no individual subbbing like today, so once a player was in the game, he stayed in till the team was substituted for, enmasse. For his size..check out the sizes of DE & DT's back then...his speed & pure athleticism was off the charts. His track times as noted here were legit & he was all SEC in track as well. As much as I am a fan of #3, there is NO comparision as to the quality of athlete between he & #20. And in addition to the wet field, the humidity that nite was almost suffocating, and that is a factor that Coac Dietzel has mentioned every time that nite comes up. That nite, that weather, playing both ways in one of the most intense games ever at TS, game into the 4th quarter, what was at stake, there is no comparision between the 2 runs, either. But #3's was great, too ! ! Just enjoy the fact that LSU won & beat O.Miss both games.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 9:45 am to MasonTiger
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with an historic goal-line stand stopping Ole Miss on fourth down at the LSU 2 yard line with only 18 seconds left in the game.
The tackle was made by Cannon
So really there is very little to compare. One return was for the game winning score against the 2nd best team in the country, breaking 6 tackles, in the mud. It also secured the Heisman trophy for a guy that played on both sides of the ball. And kept LSU in the hunt for an undefeated season and back-to-back national championships.
The other return tied the game against a .500 opponent that shouldn't been in the game at that point.
Posted on 11/23/12 at 9:57 am to byubengalboy
Famous Amos is an Idiot . Comparing OBJ with Cannon is just plain stupid! There is no man love, he was just that good. How old are u 15? :rimshot:
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