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re: Coaching blunders in LSU history (current staff excluded)...
Posted on 3/29/10 at 1:11 pm to TigerPanzer
Posted on 3/29/10 at 1:11 pm to TigerPanzer
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Hiring Lou Tepper
Tourette's?
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Posted on 3/29/10 at 1:11 pm to Sammich
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No thanks. Arkansas in 2002 scored from 81 yards away on 3 total plays in 31 seconds, knocking LSU out of the SECCG.
oh yeah the dreaded Saban prevent.
Posted on 3/29/10 at 1:12 pm to TiegerTim
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2001 LSU vs. UAB
what were the coaching blunder here??
LSU actually losing to UAB
Posted on 3/29/10 at 1:13 pm to BillyBobfan24_7
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oh yeah the dreaded Saban prevent
I'd toss the long ball at him all day long, Saban never could stop it, didn't know how.
Posted on 3/29/10 at 1:17 pm to Sammich
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So you don't undersrtand what a "Defensive Back" does do you?
yes, I also understand that things can happen that have nothing to do with coaching such as a DB could fall down or be held by an offense player and the ref's don't call it. Giving up a big play late in a game could be a coaching blunder, it could be poor execution, it could be just a great play by the other team. Without detail we don't know. You and other sunshine pumpers like Choctow just look for ops to bring up games Saban lost.
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Where should we start then?
how about what exactly about any of those games were the coaching blunders. Merely losing is not a coaching blunder per se. Each instance has to be judged individually.
Posted on 3/29/10 at 1:18 pm to Nuts4LSU
a blunder that ruined an entire season occurred in the 2002 florida game won at the swamp 36 to 7.
lsu destroying the gators and mauck goes down with a fourth quarter season ending injury. lsu loses 4 of next 7 games after starting out 5 and 1.
lsu destroying the gators and mauck goes down with a fourth quarter season ending injury. lsu loses 4 of next 7 games after starting out 5 and 1.
Posted on 3/29/10 at 1:19 pm to TiegerTim
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what were the coaching blunder here??
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2001 LSU vs. UAB
We lost to UAB...in Death Valley...on a Saturday Night!! that's what the coaching blunder was.
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2004 LSU vs. Iowa
Not having 5 DBs deep and allowing them to pass right over you.
Posted on 3/29/10 at 1:19 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
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LSU actually losing to UAB
If that's all you got, you don't understand what you are talking about. Lay out what coaching decisions lead to that loss.
Posted on 3/29/10 at 1:21 pm to H-Town Tiger
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If that's all you got, you don't understand what you are talking about. Lay out what coaching decisions lead to that loss.
I don't remember the game much but cmon were LSU we should not be losing to UAB. I'm sure there was some jimbo fisher hate.
This post was edited on 3/29/10 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 3/29/10 at 1:22 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Arkansas in 2002 scored from 81 yards away on 3 total plays in 31 seconds, knocking LSU out of the SECCG
if you can't explain the coaching blunders it means you are just looking for a way to bash Saban.
If you don't remember what happened then I will fill you in. We were doing a good job applying Pressure to Jones, they were having success running the ball but not so much passing. Then for some reason after kicking a field goal to make it 20 to 14 with 34 second on the clock, Saban uses a Prevent defense to let Jones complete a pass for 50 yards, throw an incompletion (Saban still left the Prevent on) and Jones completes a 31 yard gaming winning touchdown pass. no body got with in 10 yards of jones on either play.
Posted on 3/29/10 at 1:22 pm to H-Town Tiger
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yes, I also understand that things can happen that have nothing to do with coaching such as a DB could fall down or be held by an offense player and the ref's don't call it. Giving up a big play late in a game could be a coaching blunder, it could be poor execution, it could be just a great play by the other team
Who is Responsible for puting players in position?
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You and other sunshine pumpers like Choctow just look for ops to bring up games Saban lost.
All you're doing here is blowing your Sunshine up Saban's arse.
This post was edited on 3/29/10 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 3/29/10 at 1:23 pm to Sammich
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So you don't undersrtand what a "Defensive Back" does do you? Where should we start then?
Well, we should probably start by explaining to you what a defensive back is, since you apparently didn't recognize the six we had out there on that long pass by Arkansas in 2002 and the hail mary by Iowa in 2004. Those weren't coaching blunders, they were bad plays by our team. The coaching blunder, if there was one, occurred in the preseason or during the week of the game in possibly not preparing the players to make those kinds of plays. Now, if we had called an all-out 11-man blitz on those plays and a receiver got behind us and caught a pass with no one back there, that might be a coaching blunder.
Posted on 3/29/10 at 1:25 pm to fidebo69
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a blunder that ruined an entire season occurred in the 2002 florida game won at the swamp 36 to 7.
lsu destroying the gators and mauck goes down with a fourth quarter season ending injury. lsu loses 4 of next 7 games after starting out 5 and 1.
Good one. The Miles haters here like to think Saban never made bone headed mistakes. No coach is perfect and most even make down right stupid or obvious mistakes.
Posted on 3/29/10 at 1:26 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
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I don't remember the game much but cmon were LSU we should not be losing to UAB.
Absolutely Correct.
Posted on 3/29/10 at 1:26 pm to Choctaw
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Not having 5 DBs deep and allowing them to pass right over you.
So, instead of the six we had, we should have had only five? How would that have helped?
Posted on 3/29/10 at 1:27 pm to H-Town Tiger
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You and other sunshine pumpers like Choctow just look for ops to bring up games Saban lost.
I don't give a rats arse about Saban...those were just the two games that stuck out the most to me.
I do find it interesting though that you're taking up for Saban and blaming the players for what may be one of the most embarrassing LOSSES in LSU history....but LSU BEATS La Tech (but not by enough points i guess) and it's all Miles' fault.
Posted on 3/29/10 at 1:28 pm to BillyBobfan24_7
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Saban uses a Prevent defense to let Jones complete a pass for 50 yards, throw an incompletion
A 50 yard pass is MUCH more likely to occur when you're NOT in the prevent than when it is. If all that can beat you is a 50-yard pass, the prevent is the right call.
It can still fail to work, though.
Posted on 3/29/10 at 1:29 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
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I don't remember the game much but cmon were LSU we should not be losing to UAB
this is where understanding situations matter. It was the 4th game of the year. We had a new coach and were coming off a 3-8 season and a tough loss at Auburn the week before. The critical play, mentioned above, was an audible (that means the QB changed the play to something the coaches did not call) to something not even in the play book (ie a play the coaches did not draw up).
If we lost to UAB in 2001 a year we won the SEC or 2002 the year after, that would be a different story. Ideally we should not lose to UAB and Bama should not lose to ULM, but situations do matter. SSP like to use those games to show that Miles is as good or better than Saban.
Posted on 3/29/10 at 1:29 pm to Nuts4LSU
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So, instead of the six we had, we should have had only five? How would that have helped?
We didn't have 6 deep. When i say deep i mean 5 DBs on the 5 yard line preventing anything from reaching the endzone. It's not that hard to understand.
This post was edited on 3/29/10 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 3/29/10 at 1:32 pm to Sammich
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Who is Responsible for puting players in position?
If the coach draws up a play for a DB to be in spot X and the DB falls or doesnt get there its not the coaches fault
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All you're doing here is blowing your Sunshine up Saban's arse.
No, I'm asking you to defend your position with some kind of logic and not just the final score.
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