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Coaches pay should be based on winning not on the possibility of winning

Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:35 pm
Posted by classof72
baton rouge
Member since Apr 2009
785 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:35 pm
Pay out for Miles and his staff now for O and his staff, no doubt money means nothing when you do not have to earn that money.....
Posted by Hurricane2020
Member since Apr 2020
2472 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:39 pm to
Lsu earns that money by being a top 5 most recognizable college brand in the US. Our brand is as recognizable as Bama, Texas, notre dame, Ohio state, and USC. Our name is worth that much money, they earn it from ticket sales tv rights and sponsorships. Not to mention the massive booster money backing them. It ain't your money so stop fricking working about it.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23716 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:40 pm to
Orgeron didn’t get big money until we won the natty. That seems to be LSU’s m.o.
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 12:41 pm
Posted by LSU615
Member since Sep 2014
2284 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:42 pm to
So how do you get coaches to come to your university when they're all going to make the same money for winning? Money is usually how you lure a coach to your university. How about focusing on doing better with the hiring process instead.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:47 pm to
If a MONOPOLY did not exist in the world of "sport agents", that would be the ideal situation, with bonuses for winning EACH STEP OF THE WAY.
Those who actually win, may even make more money.
Posted by Locoguan0
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2017
4291 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:49 pm to
You are hired and paid for your past or potential. You are retained for your achievements. That is the case in most of the business world.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28363 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:50 pm to
So we can assume you don't understand how capitalism, the free market, and negotiations work, right?

NO coach, except maybe those desperate for a job, would agree to a contract where they only get paid for wins rather than a contract where they get paid regardless.

Here's how your proposal would work in real life:

Ohio St AD: "Hey coach. We'd like to offer you a 5 year $40 million contract to coach our team."

LSU AD: "Hey coach, we'd like to offer you a 5 year, $60 million contract with payment contingent upon wins. Coach? Coach are your there?"

Coach to LSU AD: "You aren't serious, right? No thanks. I think I'll just sign with Ohio St. But if you ever decide to live in the real world one day, feel free to call"
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:51 pm to
In the real world, you are paid bonuses upon achieving them each and every year. You do not get a bonus for you reaching a sales goal 3 years ago.
Posted by Ethan Martin
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2006
1701 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:51 pm to
I totally agree with this:
Example
Base salary 3 million:

under 7 wins immediate termination
7 wins 1 million dollar bonus
8 Wins 2 million dollar bonus
9 wins 3 million dollar bonus
10 wins 4 million dollar bonus'
etc...
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
50777 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:52 pm to
That's not the climate of the market though
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78648 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:53 pm to
So you would void contract law and reorder capitalism . Let me ask you, did you make your bed this morning?
Posted by TheAstroTiger
Member since Jun 2018
3101 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:54 pm to
It would be nice if the Contracts were low base pay with a high incentive pay, but we would never get a decent coach.

Base-1M
8 Games- 500K bonus
10 Games- 2M bonus
12 Games -4M Bonus
CFP appearance- 2M
NCAA champs- 2M
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30790 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

Coaches pay should be based on winning not on the possibility of winning


O literally got paid for winning the national championship.

I dont understand whats going on here.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18138 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:58 pm to
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Coaches pay should be based on winning not on the possibility of winning
that would be difficult, but the OP has a point. It's nauseating when coaches utterly fail, yet receive massive buyouts.

Orgeron, Pelini, Willie Taggert at FSU all come to mind. Many others, I'm sure.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26776 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:06 pm to
Why do you hate capitalism?
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18138 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:10 pm to
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Why do you hate capitalism?
none of us hate capitalism, but it doesn't bother you when a bad coach gets a massive buyout merely for failing?

It's like a bad CEO who ran a company into the ground, but has a sick golden parachute.

Now sure, it's all in the contract so the guy gets what's required, but you're not human if you're not a little bothered by an utter failure being rewarded with an massive buyout.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66554 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:11 pm to
Almost every contract is based on what you did more than what you’re gonna do.

No one takes an insanely performance based contract
Posted by Sir Fury
Member since Jan 2015
4572 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:11 pm to
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Coaches pay should be based on winning not on the possibility of winning


That’s exactly why Coach O got that fat raise, he won a championship.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:11 pm to
Not when a couple of agents control about 85% or so of the coaches.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:13 pm to
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That’s exactly why Coach O got that fat raise, he won a championship.


Give the coach THE BIGGG BONUS for winning...next year is a new year....earn it again.
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