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Posted on 4/5/22 at 4:44 pm to Buda
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7) Wade will coach again once the heat dies down
Likely going to have to deal with a show cause of up to 5 years.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 5:21 pm to Buda
Who cares. He's done
And I'm not reading all that
And I'm not reading all that
Posted on 4/5/22 at 5:33 pm to Higgysmalls
Bill Self is a very hated coach but Kansas is a blueblood so they get to make a deal.
Facts are that for some reason “Wade was the most hated person in college basketball” per a n
Facts are that for some reason “Wade was the most hated person in college basketball” per a n
Posted on 4/5/22 at 6:39 pm to Alt26
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This is said often on here, but is never followed with any explanation as to HOW he was a "below average coach." Can anyone actually explain their position? Or is this just continuous repeating of the same tired mantra?
It really is one of the dumbest phrases constantly repeated on here by fans that just started following the team after the 15-1 start this season.
Once his top two ball handlers were hurt and we had Eric Gaines running the point, the team started losing. After that, Will Wade turned into an "average in game coach" on Tigerdroppings. It was shite posted by the First Cuck and StAugFLTiger during the season and once a few people saw it mentioned on here it's turned into a "fact" to other posters.
Nevermind the fact that he won huge games during his time here while beating these terrific in game coaches that have won national championships and been to elite 8s, final fours, etc. But "Will Wade isnt a good in game coach and couldnt make it to that level in the NCAA tournament." Even though he was only allowed to coach two NCAA tournament games at LSU thanks to the bozo AD we had prior to the current AD who made a terrible decision pre-tourney.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 6:45 pm to Buda
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1) Wade cheated and did so very foolishly and got caught. He desrves what he got. He should have been fired when the story first broke.
False
quote:False only LSU and Adizond fired coaches but Zona coach was declining bad
2) The University had NO CHOICE but to fire him immediately once the NOV was official. Anyone who says different is clueless.
Posted on 4/5/22 at 8:45 pm to Buda
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He should have been fired when the story first broke.
But he wasn’t and our spineless AD screwed the kids and the program by waiting until right before the tourney. This was nothing but Woodward ego and was unnecessary. Another week of Wade at the helm would have had no impact on LSU’s cowering to the NCAA.
Posted on 4/6/22 at 10:41 pm to Alt26
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This is said often on here, but is never followed with any explanation as to HOW he was a "below average coach." Can anyone actually explain their position? Or is this just continuous repeating of the same tired mantra?
I've posted on this often during the Wade years. Off the top of my head:
- His players completely lacked fundamentals - no boxing out, no movement without the ball, poor footwork from big men, etc. etc.
- His players did not develop over the years. They had the skills they came in with and bever really developed anything else.
- His offense had no semblance of good coaching - no movement without the ball, no concept of spacing, very few set plays. They never rolled of picks. They never went inside-outside. They never made extra pass to an open shooter. His offense the entire he was here was: get it to the best player and see if he can make a play. If not, force a shot at the end of the shot clock.
- Time management at the nd of halfs was always bad - they did not understand when two-for-one was appropriate. They fouled at the end of games when they should do anything but foul - giving teams chances to come back - how many times did teams come back on Wade's teams and win after we had a big lead? He had no concept of slow it down, use clock and get a good shot.
I could go on and on. His teams did not do the things you learn in Biddy basketball. And they never showed improvement over their college careers.
Posted on 4/6/22 at 11:29 pm to Buda
Completely false
Posted on 4/6/22 at 11:38 pm to Buda
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The University had NO CHOICE but to fire him immediately once the NOV was official. Anyone who says different is clueless.
You’re the clueless one. There was nothing stopping Tate and Woodward from putting out a statement explaining that the matter would be dealt with at the conclusion of LSU’s postseason and until that time there is to be no comment from any LSU employee.
The only reason for the timing is that Woodward dreaded having to fire him coming off of a deep run. That mattered more to him than the STUDENT ATHLETES and fans getting to experience said run.
And it was going to happen - unless Wisconsin magically grew an offense LSU was going to the Sweet 16 with Wade
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 11:42 pm
Posted on 4/6/22 at 11:40 pm to Buda
Great post. Interesting up/downvote ratio…
Posted on 4/7/22 at 12:19 am to Buda
What is not considered here but is very likely a huge calculation by ADs around the country. NIL is here to stay and players will go where they are offered the most. LSU is shaping their NIL program now and the issue is there is only so much money they will be able to spend a year. What percent of that money do you think will be spent on football and then baseball and how much is left over for basketball? Think about it. Scott probably made that calculation. To be elite in football is a must at LSU or Woodward will be shown the door. For the time being, let Brian Kelly use all that money to build up LSU football and then let Matt McMahon coach up his 3 stars and find hidden gems who won’t require NIL deals.
Posted on 4/7/22 at 12:23 am to nwallb2
I’m a Wade supporter but still very pessimistic about the chances of keeping him past this season.
This year’s postseason was another story, and it’s unforgivable what Woodward did to the players.
This year’s postseason was another story, and it’s unforgivable what Woodward did to the players.
Posted on 4/7/22 at 6:32 am to Buda
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Buda
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1) Wade cheated and did so very foolishly and got caught
That about sums it all up
The FBI wiretap is the only reason for the investigation
No matter how you twist the conversation, Wade put the noose around his own neck.
Posted on 4/7/22 at 6:45 am to Buda
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His players did not develop over the years
Lol. If only there was an example from THIS season of a player getting WAY better after coming to lsu.
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His offense had no semblance of good coaching
His team finished in the top 12 in offensive efficiency 3 different years.
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they did not understand when two-for-one was appropriate.
Pretty much zero teams in college basketball worry about 2 for 1’s since it only can happen once a game.
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I could go on and on. His teams did not do the things you learn in Biddy basketball.
You should stick to biddy ball since you have ZERO clue wtf you are talking about.
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And they never showed improvement over their college careers.
Skylar mays would like a word with you.
Posted on 4/7/22 at 7:09 am to Buda
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Posted on 4/7/22 at 7:18 am to Buda
Let’s say that the ncaa hadn’t issued their notice-
He was a douchebag to the admin and others at LSU so he wasn’t a real popular guy.
His record was good relative to past 3 coaches but with very few tournament wins, an ncaa cloud over us, and a contract expiration looming, I think he would have been fired if he had demanded more money anyway.
He was a douchebag to the admin and others at LSU so he wasn’t a real popular guy.
His record was good relative to past 3 coaches but with very few tournament wins, an ncaa cloud over us, and a contract expiration looming, I think he would have been fired if he had demanded more money anyway.
Posted on 4/7/22 at 7:35 am to bulldogger
"What is clear is that he elevated the program higher than it has been in a long time - maybe ever" |
"You lost me here. One SEC Championship and two tourney wins. He was no where close to ‘80 to 9"
THIS
"You lost me here. One SEC Championship and two tourney wins. He was no where close to ‘80 to 9"
THIS
Posted on 4/7/22 at 8:03 am to Buda
I appreciate you drawing a line especially as it relates to the Wade haters, but
If this happened, it would’ve surely led to
Well the league was pretty good when he won it in 18/19 at age 36 or whatever. Wanna say 5-7 teams in the tournament plus South Carolina randomly crashing the top 4. The area he has to improve is roster building. Start thinking a little more about positions and balance and not so much assembling dudes.
See, again i appreciate the effort but you appear to be part of the third group of LSU basketball fans at present.
1) Wade fanbois
2) Wade haters
3) doomsday
Yea we are likely facing sanctions but this isn’t Brady taking over for Brown. With the portal and the amount of mid major talent on the move, once any short term restrictions are lifted it can and most likely will be a quicker than expected turnaround. The program is not dead and there’s a pretty good chance we might put together a decent season next year once McMahon finishes assembling the roster as it takes ages for these sagas to play out.
Doomsday mentality. There may be a rough couple years but it can be fixed quickly.
Otherwise you make some good points
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He should have been fired when the story first broke.
If this happened, it would’ve surely led to
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LSU basketball will struggle for a while
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Wade was a great recruiter and an average-to-below average coach. You need to be both to win NCAA championships - and since the SEC is getting better all the time, the same is true of SEC Championships.
Well the league was pretty good when he won it in 18/19 at age 36 or whatever. Wanna say 5-7 teams in the tournament plus South Carolina randomly crashing the top 4. The area he has to improve is roster building. Start thinking a little more about positions and balance and not so much assembling dudes.
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Despite all that, Will Wade is THE person responsible for ruining LSU basketball for many years to come
See, again i appreciate the effort but you appear to be part of the third group of LSU basketball fans at present.
1) Wade fanbois
2) Wade haters
3) doomsday
Yea we are likely facing sanctions but this isn’t Brady taking over for Brown. With the portal and the amount of mid major talent on the move, once any short term restrictions are lifted it can and most likely will be a quicker than expected turnaround. The program is not dead and there’s a pretty good chance we might put together a decent season next year once McMahon finishes assembling the roster as it takes ages for these sagas to play out.
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line, his misconduct ruined LSU basketball. And for that I cannot forgive him and don't want him ever be associated with LSU again. I place zero blame on the AD and the LSU leadership. This is on Wade - period. Both sides of this debate need to move on and support LSU basketball - lord knows we're gonna need it in the next few years.
Doomsday mentality. There may be a rough couple years but it can be fixed quickly.
Otherwise you make some good points
Posted on 4/7/22 at 8:14 am to ashy larry
That’s the shitty ways of the world nowadays, every opinion needs drama or it’s a terrible viewpoint and is downvoted in the minds of some irrational people.
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