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BABIP - Batting Average On Balls in Play

Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:22 am
Posted by LeGOAT
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2023
50 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:22 am
Ran the numbers to see what our team BABIP is.

For those not familiar, BABIP indicates how lucky/unlucky you are with regard to where you are hitting the ball. For reference, MLB average is ~.300. If BABIP > .300, you’re “hitting it where they ain’t”; if BABIP under .300, you’re “hitting it right at ‘em”. Should run a bit higher than .300 in college given the level of defender is not that of the MLB.

So here are the numbers..

LSU Overall BABIP: .326
Opponents overall BABIP: .332

LSU SEC Conf BABIP: .280
SEC Opponents BABIP: .354

One could argue our hitters have been unlucky in SEC play, with our opponents being pretty damn lucky at the same time. The good news: these numbers will mean revert over time, assuming we consistently make hard contact on par with our opponents.

Only caveat: I’m not accounting for exit velocity. It’s possible we have a way lower avg exit velocity than our SEC opponents, which could contribute to the lower BABIP.

Only other plausible explanation is Wanaka is sabotaging us from the inside, putting our guys out of position defensively.

In short, THERE IS HOPE
Posted by brtiger77
Member since Aug 2023
176 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:30 am to
Kind of a weird thing to deep dive and post at 3AM
Posted by LeGOAT
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2023
50 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 3:46 am to
quote:

Kind of a weird thing to deep dive and post at 3AM


Perks of night shift
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 3:50 am
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 4:31 am to
We’ve all done weirder shite than this at 3 am.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77419 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 5:30 am to
I can add to this.

Per d1 stats

From a pitching standpoint:
Lsu has a defensive/pitching babip of .332, 3rd worst in the conference. Their 3.04 siera is 3rd best in conference, so they have definitely been on the unlucky side from a pitching and defensive perspective.

Their .327 offensive babip is pretty average for the conference.

Sidenote:
Vanderbilts offensive babip is .362 for 3rd best in conference.
Their defensive babip is .286 for 2nd best in conference.

In other words, regression is heading their way
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 5:34 am
Posted by LeGOAT
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2023
50 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 5:52 am to
quote:

Their .327 offensive babip is pretty average for the conference.


.327 overall vs. .280 in SEC games. Baseball Gods have humbled us in SEC play.

Moreover, .354 BABIP against our pitchers in SEC games is crazy high. Combine that with walks and you have a recipe for disaster.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
24299 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 5:58 am to
Nice post
Posted by bourbon78
Member since Feb 2024
69 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:07 am to
It doesn’t help much if we strike out 12+ times a game.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77419 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:08 am to
I dont think you know what babip is
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164137 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:10 am to
quote:

Only other plausible explanation is Wanaka is sabotaging us from the inside, putting our guys out of position defensively.

Most likely. LSU’s defensive positioning has been a glaring weakness since Day 1 under Jay Johnson.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77419 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:10 am to
Welcome aboard the defensive alignment opposition train
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7277 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:11 am to
How do the defensive shifts play into this?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164137 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:13 am to
Brother you know I’ve been on that train since 2022. We’ve talked about it before.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77419 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:16 am to
2022 is when it really filled me with rage, now its just expected
Posted by LeGOAT
Denham Springs
Member since Apr 2023
50 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:25 am to
quote:

How do the defensive shifts play into this?
I was being facetious about Wanaka. But in theory if you shift players away from where the ball is actually going to be hit, you increase odds of it being a hit vs. an out, thus increasing BABIP of the opponent.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30304 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:08 am to
quote:

For those not familiar, BABIP indicates how lucky/unlucky you are with regard to where you are hitting the ball.


Kinda. If you hit weak popups every time the ball is in play, that's still poor batting.

quote:

Only caveat: I’m not accounting for exit velocity. It’s possible we have a way lower avg exit velocity than our SEC opponents, which could contribute to the lower BABIP.


Yeah that's what I was talking about.

Also, are you using every AB that isn't a strikeout or does it only count ball hit in fair territory? In other words, does it looking at HITS/(AB-SO) or does it look at HITS/(AB-SO-FOUL-OUTS)?

That is an interesting stat, though.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27834 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:14 am to
It’s balls in play, so doesn’t remove foul outs but does remove homeruns from both hits and ABs (which triggers the hell out of ell).
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 7:18 am
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
4527 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:17 am to
Not all balls are hit equally. This isn’t all about luck. A hard hit ball in the gap is not luck compared to a pop fly in the gap that the OF can get under. In other words, a low BABIP can very well indicate a team that is not hitting the ball well.
Posted by OhioLSUfan
Columbus, OH
Member since Oct 2007
1287 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:17 am to
Nice list
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
7539 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 7:31 am to
I just see that we hit a lot more pop flies than our opponents. Loud outs don't get you much.
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