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Arkansas's final touchdown is a perfect example of the types of things

Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:04 am
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:04 am
LSU lacks in its repertoire, and of the types of things that are highly successful in the college game.

The Hawgs line up under center, with one running back, then pull the tight end into an upback position in an I formation, signalling a give to the deep back. After the fake to the RB up the middle, Allen gives the ball on an end around.

It works to perfection for a 69 yard touchdown.

The particular beauty of that play is that it doesn't even appear to require a whole lot of practice on timing. Only the TE moves before the snap.

It works because it's DECEPTIVE, not because it's overpowering or highly complex. It only requires imagination.

I never leave an LSU game with the feeling that Cam Cameron understands that what may never fool a fast, seasoned veteran in the NFL just might work against college age newbies.

After Saturday, I would trade Mr. Cameron for Mr. Enos in a heart beat.
Posted by ndtiger
vicksburg, ms
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:07 am to
I agree
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:08 am to
Yeah but 2013 blah blah
Posted by MandevilleLSUTiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:08 am to
Les called it a dispy doodle or some shite. Like it was super creative.

High schools run this.
Posted by c on z
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:08 am to
Didn't we used to do that with OBJ? Sad that this was never returned to the playbook.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:09 am to
I forgot to mention... by trading Cameron for Enos I'd also save about a million dollars per year.
Posted by TigerRagAndrew
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:10 am to
Y'all forget that team has 4 losses

Y'all all would have taken Malzahn as well 2 years ago. Hows that working out?
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29473 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:10 am to
Russell Shepard's jet sweep touchdown was awesome as a freshman (I think). It's in a load of LSU hype videos and other.

I think we have tried it with Dural a couple of times but do not recall a big success recently.

Paging Trindon Holliday....

Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:11 am to
LSU runs the sweep pretty often, no?

Dural and Guice has ran it several times this year
Posted by LSUfonte
South Texas
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:11 am to
quote:

After Saturday, I would trade Mr. Cameron for Mr. Enos in a heart beat.


It wouldn't matter. Les is in control of the offense.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:11 am to
quote:

Y'all forget that team has 4 losses



That team has a ton less talent than we do too.
Posted by higgins
flowery branch, ga
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:12 am to
we saw something similar against miss st. worked to perfection,sans the holding call. really just one of our jet sweeps but it seems to have disappeared. our offense gets more predictable and conservative through the season.
Posted by Zchlsu
Twin Peaks, Washington
Member since Jan 2011
6025 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:12 am to
It seems like when LSU tried those plays they develop super slowly. Arkansas made them look so fluid that I couldn't tell who had the ball.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70891 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:13 am to
No huddle. We went away from it after it resulted in a quick score. Arkansas' weakness was their secondary and by going no huddle and passing, we could have come back on them. But after we scored using that, we of course stopped! Because frick touchdowns!
This post was edited on 11/16/15 at 9:15 am
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:14 am to
quote:

Y'all forget that team has 4 losses
who's talking about wins and losses here?

the trajectory of both offenses are going in completely opposite directions. OP is pointing out the similarities of both offenses but the differences in how they execute and call their plays.
Posted by crazyLSUfan
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:18 am to
Agree except for the fact that you're critique is directed towards Cam. We've seen, what, 5 offensive coordinators in Les's tenure and there's been almost no difference in style since 2008. Sadly, that tells us point blank, that it's ALL on Miles.

Do I think Cam would be the best OC in the nation, prob not, but he'd be a hell of a lot better if Miles would let go of the frickin reigns.
Posted by Mike Honcho
North Dallas
Member since Oct 2007
2918 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 9:52 am to
With #7 running into the line and drawing the defense in and someone like guice running the sweep around the outside we would be very productive. We could do it a couple of times a game and it would work everytime.
Posted by el gato
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
2402 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:23 am to
quote:

It works because it's DECEPTIVE, not because it's overpowering or highly complex. It only requires imagination.

Agreed. However, Bo Schembechler probably wouldn't have used a play like that.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 11:55 am to
quote:

Les called it dispy doodle or some shite.

If so, Les was trying to disparage it as something the big boys wouldn't run, in which case I would direct his attention to the scoreboard.
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 12:07 pm to
My reaction to that play was just sort of a subtle admiration.

Great play call. Smooth execution.

The Razorbacks have a really good O, and they are hot. I think they will probably try to go to the air more vs. MSU.
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