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re: Anybody else notice a constant influx of “It’s not O’s fault” and “not Pelini’s fault”

Posted on 12/11/20 at 5:10 pm to
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
11007 posts
Posted on 12/11/20 at 5:10 pm to
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I don’t think the posts are written by LSU media, more just people closely connected to O and his inner circle.
Ignorant and blind Sycophants
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 12/11/20 at 5:35 pm to
It is amusing that before if the tiger came down with some type of stomach virus it was the head coaches fault. But now the list of excuses as to why it can’t be Coach O‘s fault runs half a mile.

Coach O has lost this team. Hopefully, he can get it back
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10449 posts
Posted on 12/11/20 at 7:13 pm to
Nope.
Posted by 75helpmacpack
atlanta
Member since Dec 2012
821 posts
Posted on 12/11/20 at 8:28 pm to
No, everyone believes it’s the Rants fault.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
12927 posts
Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:29 pm to
I’m going to love ripping a hole in your arse next season on a weekly basis. It’s coming prick.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31015 posts
Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:33 pm to
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I’m going to love ripping a hole in your arse next season on a weekly basis.


Really asking. Do you honestly think the football program is as secure as it was last season? Everything is just perfect?

There's a major disconnect over the program and for it to get to this point from where we were not even a year ago, it's concerning to see.

Everything is not cool. Kids are opting out, whatever you choose to call it, there's a disconnect between the HC and his players. O has even said as much. "Put this on me. Gotta fix it" yet little gets fixed. He's had all season to kinda right the ship and that hasn't happened. I worry about future recruits, current players opting out, now O is throwing darts at the fans like it's the fans fault. None of that is a good look for him.

This post was edited on 12/11/20 at 11:45 pm
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:55 pm to
Of course the program is “not as secure” as last season. Last season was magical. The current season has had a lot of bad luck with injuries and opt outs on top of losing a ton of juniors to the NFL. I also think O has total responsibility for Pelini. However I believe O will make changes quickly. He did this in the past. I also think next season will be significantly improved, particularly if Brennan is healthy. When we are back to 10 wins next year and building to another title, I am going to enjoy calling out all the haters on here who hated O but kissed his arse last year then jumped on the team when they were down. As for the “disconnect”, any players who are weak pansies who would choose to lose because somebody didn’t tell them that cops are awful or hold their hand enough, those guys are cancers and can’t leave fast enough.
This post was edited on 12/12/20 at 12:00 am
Posted by Syntax
FL390
Member since Aug 2020
964 posts
Posted on 12/12/20 at 12:00 am to
So everything is hunky dory right? Just a blip on the radar screen. All is well on the home front. OK, got ya.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 12/12/20 at 12:22 am to
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I’m going to love ripping a hole in your arse next season on a weekly basis. It’s coming prick


I hope you are correct. If O survives this season (and once again, I seriously doubt he will be fired because of the record. If he isn't coaching next year it will be because shite hit the fan with other stuff) then I think his only chance of remaining the coach at LSU long term is if he gets a homerun hire at both OC and DC.

I don't think he's a good coach at all. He has to surround himself with good coordinators. He's an exceptional recruiter, but that's it. I think his track record proves this.

So, I certainly see a path to success for O, but I think it's highly unlikely that it happens.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31015 posts
Posted on 12/12/20 at 12:50 am to
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However I believe O will make changes quickly. He did this in the past


You have more faith in him than I do. I was conflicted when he made the interim, then he was made the HC and we got better every season. We get to last season and it couldn't have been better. Then we get to this season and it's like, "what happened?" I mean we should've been at least respectful and competitive. And he made terrible hires. He's made one good hire. Like I said, people expected a drop-off but not like this.


Who's in charge of fixing it? Game 9 looks for the most part like game 1. You can only use the "he won a natty" excuse for so long.


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As for the “disconnect”, any players who are weak pansies who would choose to lose because somebody didn’t tell them that cops are awful or hold their hand enough, those guys are cancers and can’t leave fast enough.



So you condone brushing players out the door as long as it suits your narrative? What does that tell the potential recruitments?

So much for being the "one team, one heartbeat." Again, that's coming from the HC.

But we can't hold O accountable for any of that. It has to be the 'weak pansy' players. No way it could be anything the HC did. I think there needs to be some 'tough love' but I don't see that from O this season. He seems to be more concerned with other things, not the program. I'm not going to say what but we all know what it is. If this were his 'dream job,' seems to me, he'd put more emphasis on it. He's the HC. It starts there.

Give me a break. It blows my mind how far some of you will go the ends of the earth to defend the man. It's nuts.

Again, I don't think he should be fired but I also don't think you're being very realistic.

We've made little adjustments and if we were undefeated, you wouldn't be bringing up the Covid stuff. Georgia looks to be doing fine with that, Clemson looks to be ok, Alabama looks to be ok, Florida looks to be ok.

So where did we go off the rails? It has to be the 'pansy players' right? It couldn't be because the HC has no idea of how to keep his players solidified, aka 'one team, one heartbeat,' now could it?

It's always someone else's fault. Forget about the guy actually driving the bus. O needs to fix this and fast. Have people already in mind to hire and I also think it would be in the best interest of the school that O doesn't decide on who to hire as new coordinators. His track record speaks for itself.

This is just my opinion, no sources or anything but it's obvious that there is something amiss.
This post was edited on 12/12/20 at 1:18 am
Posted by UntamedTig3r
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
238 posts
Posted on 12/12/20 at 1:16 am to
I believe there's fault and regression on all levels from EO on down to the players but it's going to always fall on the head coach. His so called mentors/friends swole his already big head up last year. Now let's hope they're humbling the shite out of him with some honest critical feedback whether he's asking for it or not.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31015 posts
Posted on 12/12/20 at 1:24 am to
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I believe there's fault and regression on all levels from EO on down to the players but it's going to always fall on the head coach


I agree.


If he chooses to get an inflated ego and such from his buddies, that's on him but the bottom line is that he's in charge of a football program and he seems to have put it on the back burner. The guy needs to wake up. I don't know if he got an inflated ego because of last season or what but that was last season.

You get all the praise, which he got, now he gets the critical feedback. Part of being a HC.

The guy is paid millions of dollars to do exactly that.


People aren't going to go to games when the HC can't even rally his players. That's a fact. And he's on the verge of that.


Lose your players, lose the crowd, lose the support. That's a bit extreme but it's leaning that way, and I hate to say that.
This post was edited on 12/12/20 at 1:27 am
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 12/12/20 at 5:38 am to
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The negatigers on here ruined recruiting in 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2018.

No way we win the title in 2019 if this is actually true
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
15599 posts
Posted on 12/12/20 at 5:44 am to
No
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39582 posts
Posted on 12/12/20 at 6:42 am to
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LSU media putting in work?

Actually, I though you, and your ilk, were Alabama trolls trying to undermine the rising threat.
Posted by Big Shane
Member since Dec 2020
26 posts
Posted on 12/12/20 at 7:29 am to
It is all on Oeaux
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
16998 posts
Posted on 12/12/20 at 7:38 am to
Has the convicted felon decided to retire the Tiger Ree account?

It was clever having “Ree” mention in passing occasionally that he lived in Houston. Nice diversion.
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
17135 posts
Posted on 12/12/20 at 8:17 am to
frick off navy
Posted by SOL2
Dallas burbs
Member since Jan 2020
4795 posts
Posted on 12/12/20 at 8:59 am to
It's a fake season. It's the NCAA's fault.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
12927 posts
Posted on 12/12/20 at 11:39 am to
One team, one heartbeat is a two way street. The coach commits to you and you commit to the team. It does not mean if players quit on the team you have to keep coddling them indefinitely. In fact, I would argue keeping cancers in your locker room is a disservice to all the other players who have actually bought into a “one team” approach.
This post was edited on 12/12/20 at 11:40 am
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