re: any florida players suspended for this weekend after brawl w/ FSU?

You can't tell me that being a foot inside the foul line is "leaving" the base path. Yes the guy did swerve from the running lane and into fair territory but he was on the foul line (which to my understanding is part of the base path).

I will say that after re-watching it that I didn't notice the runner come back into the base line once he saw that it would be a close play and try and disrupt the pitcher. I still think that because he was running on the foul line and not completely leaving the base path that it was legal and why he wasn't called out.

Also: I never knew LSU and FSU got into a brawl. Badass video! Some serious punches were thrown

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I will say that after re-watching it that I didn't notice the runner come back into the base line once he saw that it would be a close play and try and disrupt the pitcher.

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That's what set me off about the play.

I was probably harsh in my first response, but it was more because I've been debating the play most of the morning on another board.

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Also: I never knew LSU and FSU got into a brawl. Badass video! Some serious punches were thrown

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I was a kid, and remember it well. I'm pretty sure it was a landmark win for Bowden, like career win #200 or something like that.

Edit: I just clicked the link, I guess it was pretty obvious that it was Bowden's 200th win.

Yeah I gotcha. Seems like there's a valid argument either way but the situation was being handled by the coach/ump and didn't have to clear the benches (wish I had a baseball bench clearing fight story when I played)

I wasn't born till '92 so that was before my time but I would say LSU won the fight but lost the game. That has to count for something right...

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He has the right to the base path just as much as the defense does

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no he doesnt. the runner can not disrupt a player for making a play on the ball w/o being called out.

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It was already misplayed before the collision. I don't see the issue here.

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First off, this is a judgement call so thats going to be the only grey area to this.

The chalk line is considered fair territory. Runners interference occurs when a runner interferes with a fielder making an attempt on the ball. There doesn't need to be collision, and it doesn't necessarily matter if collision occurs after the interference. When the batter-runner is running to first and veers inside the baseline or even stays outside but makes a step toward the fielders, it should be ruled that he is interfering if the fielder doesn't field the ball. The runner must yield or adjust his path to give room to a fielder.

They should have called the batter-runner out and advanced any runners in a force position on the bases by one base. The blame for no call is on the home plate umpire because he is the only person looking directly at the back of the runner to see his path clearly. However, given that the firstbaseman approached the runner and a conflict ensued, it's understandable that the umpires got caught up in the more urgent issue of separating everyone.

How did he interfere with the pitcher making the play if the pitching misplayed it prior to any contact? The pitcher wasn't aware of where he was at the time the play should have been made. Two feet this way or that didnt make a difference to him facing his glove the wrong way.

So it's "judgement" then you say things like "should have" and "blame".

glad fox/that cameraman weren't a bunch of PC pussies and turn the camera away and not discuss it, fricking pisses me off when fights or something crazy happens and they won't show it

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The chalk line is considered fair territory. Runners interference occurs when a runner interferes with a fielder making an attempt on the ball. There doesn't need to be collision, and it doesn't necessarily matter if collision occurs after the interference. When the batter-runner is running to first and veers inside the baseline or even stays outside but makes a step toward the fielders, it should be ruled that he is interfering if the fielder doesn't field the ball. The runner must yield or adjust his path to give room to a fielder.

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exactly

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They should have called the batter-runner out and advanced any runners in a force position on the bases by one base.

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batter-runner should be out yes, but the other runners would be returned to the last legally occupied base.

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How did he interfere with the pitcher making the play if the pitching misplayed it prior to any contact?

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I wasn't aware that a play was over after a bobble.

In college baseball a base runner is not allowed to deviate at all from a slide into second base during a double play attempt. Any slight leg movement outside of the framework of the bag, or any part of the body sliding past second base will result in runner interference. Yet I am supposed to believe that when a pitcher bobbles a ball a full step inside the foul line between home plate and first base that he now fair game to be run over?