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re: Anthony Johnson - 1st Half Review
Posted on 10/1/13 at 8:22 am to TheMadHatter5931
Posted on 10/1/13 at 8:22 am to TheMadHatter5931
quote:consider our LB play has been as bad as anything else this year and all...
Chief has forgotten more about football than you will ever know. Ill go ahead and trust him when it comes to LB's.
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 8:31 am to The Egg
quote:
consider our LB play has been as bad as anything else this year and all...
You really don't have a clue do you?
In past years we had multiple massive DLinemen that were constantly being rotated in, and great DB's both talented and great coaching (cooper).
thus: the LB's could wreck shop and run freely making plays look easy.
Go read a SI article or something and come back and tell us what you "know" or have "seen"
Coach
Posted on 10/1/13 at 8:34 am to jwill37
You are one of many people who have said he is a tweener lol. This isn't a 3-4 dude. I'm pretty sure him and glen Dorsey are at least close to the same size. 3-4 dt then yes maybe. Also Tyson Jackson wasn't a tweener. He was what used to be a pretty normal size DE. Now days people are utilizing the mingos of the world more often.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 8:35 am to TheMadHatter5931
frick all this read bullshite defense. Turn their asses loose, play man to man and let them use there God gifted talent. That is what Ryan is doing down in New Orleans. Spags tried that crap and it did not work. Players were confused and we are seeing it with the scheme they are running.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 12:01 pm to TheMadHatter5931
quote:
Define Whiffs?
I'm not trying to hammer Welter unncessarily but on this play he went unblocked, had a direct path to Gurley 3 yds in the backfield, and as best as I can tell failed to even make contact (there - my definition). Why not just tackle the guy with the ball 3 yds in the backfield?
Yes he got in on the tackle about 6+ yds later from behind. "Textbook" - it's author wasn't by chance some guy named Tepper was it?
(As mentioned my post wasn't directed at Welter alone. On the same play Ego gets blocked 3 yds downfield.)
Similarly, there's a play in the 2 qtr from about our own 20, handoff to Marshall to the left which goes for 10+ yds. Lamar Louis is at LB. It appears as if Louis just runs completely opposite from the play before running into a blocker, wakes-up, then finds the ball, pursues, and gets in on the tackle by the sideline. Just mystifying watching this. If there's an explanation, pray tell. Louis was replaced by Welter on the next play.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 12:45 pm to AlwysATgr
quote:
The criticism of Freak has been harsh so I wanted to see if it was in fact warranted. What I gathered from watching just the UGA possessions for the 1st half:
Great analysis dude. Thanks for taking the time to write this up.
I feel the same way as a lot of your thoughts.
Another observation on Welter, I think he is decent at reading a play and getting to the hole.
The problem is he hovers above the hole because he doesn't have the speed to get there and crash the hole, so he's making tackles 4 or 5 yards downfield instead of at the LOS or behind it. He also isn't as sure a tackler obviously, which makes it even worse.
That's what Minter brought to the table and what we're missing at MLB imo.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 12:47 pm to Datbayoubengal
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He doesn't look as bad as people say.
He is suppose to be an every down all american. He is not any of that. People were swearing up and down at the beginning of the year of his hype coming out of high school and he hasn't shown any of that yet.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 2:01 pm to Tiger Voodoo
One of our problems is that I am afraid he is the best we have for now, after seeing the other guy running the wrong way and filling the wrong gap. Others may have more physical ability but are not yet ready to react as quickly as necessary, which is something that should come with experience (although some folks never seem to have that light come on).
Posted on 10/1/13 at 2:48 pm to AlwysATgr
On that particular play (which I hate using single plays to make overarching conclusions... great players look bad on some plays. It doesn't give enough sample size), it looks like Welter simply bit on the option read. He hesitated on the give, which is exactly why EVERY single college team and even NFL teams have gone to that play.
Welter, if he's playing fast and aware, should know to never bite on that when the option is between Todd Gurley and Aaron Murray, especially with the entire O-line pulling left. That was a run all the way. His instincts should have told him to commit to Gurley. It looks like he may have been thinking sack. My thing is, not just with Welter but the entire D, they are thinking too much. You have to COMMIT at this level of football. Can't hesitate.
As far as AJ, I have been especially critical of him. He hasn't played good football up to this point. However, I pointed out in another thread that Georgia was his best game to date. He played within himself better last game. Hopefully he continues to improve. The first 3 games he did not live up to his moniker.
Welter, if he's playing fast and aware, should know to never bite on that when the option is between Todd Gurley and Aaron Murray, especially with the entire O-line pulling left. That was a run all the way. His instincts should have told him to commit to Gurley. It looks like he may have been thinking sack. My thing is, not just with Welter but the entire D, they are thinking too much. You have to COMMIT at this level of football. Can't hesitate.
As far as AJ, I have been especially critical of him. He hasn't played good football up to this point. However, I pointed out in another thread that Georgia was his best game to date. He played within himself better last game. Hopefully he continues to improve. The first 3 games he did not live up to his moniker.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 5:19 pm to Mohican
All I can say is I might have to bump the thread where I along with a few others question the defense, particularly the line and safeties, and continually got bashed for it.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 5:26 pm to Mohican
I find that at each level, the game gets faster, and not just in running speed. Things happen more quickly and players have less time to respond. Experience can make it flow better and help the decision process to proceed more quickly but I fear that this year LSU has too many kids who have to think a half second or longer more than you'd like, and that short period makes it harder to get off a block, harder to get to a hole in time, more likely to have a receiver run by you. The only cure is to keep playing and working on the correct decision being made more quickly.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 5:45 pm to Bengalroar
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This is mindboggling. We've recruited big names there, so either poor evaluation or no development.
Name the last DL star that last until his senior year?
Posted on 10/1/13 at 6:12 pm to 5Alive
That's what I say. 298 a tweener?
Posted on 10/1/13 at 6:15 pm to jwill37
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He's. a tweene
What? He is not. He is 300 lbs. perfect for a 4-3 dt.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 7:05 pm to Rickdaddy4188
what a lot of you do not remember, is that this is the same zone play, read/react, passive play, call it what you will that got him fired from TN...
he should have learned.
that mentality lost us the Alabama game last year as well.
I think he is very knowledgeable but seems to get scared and plays to not lose instead of playing to win..
that has lost us games.
Frankly, before Cam, after his first 3 years, Miles had taken the same attitude.
he should have learned.
that mentality lost us the Alabama game last year as well.
I think he is very knowledgeable but seems to get scared and plays to not lose instead of playing to win..
that has lost us games.
Frankly, before Cam, after his first 3 years, Miles had taken the same attitude.
This post was edited on 10/1/13 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 10/1/13 at 10:09 pm to rbdallas
Chavis had an attacking style from 2009-2011
Disappeared last year and this year as well.
It's a read and react defense that gave away the 2012 bama and Clemson games as well as last Saturday.
Disappeared last year and this year as well.
It's a read and react defense that gave away the 2012 bama and Clemson games as well as last Saturday.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 10:28 pm to ApexTiger
quote:
Name the last DL star that last until his senior year?
Point well taken. I guess it would be:
Nevis ('10)
Tyson ('08)
Posted on 10/1/13 at 10:30 pm to Mohican
quote:
On that particular play (which I hate using single plays to make overarching conclusions... great players look bad on some plays. It doesn't give enough sample size), it looks like Welter simply bit on the option read. He hesitated on the give, which is exactly why EVERY single college team and even NFL teams have gone to that play.
Welter, if he's playing fast and aware, should know to never bite on that when the option is between Todd Gurley and Aaron Murray, especially with the entire O-line pulling left. That was a run all the way. His instincts should have told him to commit to Gurley. It looks like he may have been thinking sack. My thing is, not just with Welter but the entire D, they are thinking too much. You have to COMMIT at this level of football. Can't hesitate.
As far as AJ, I have been especially critical of him. He hasn't played good football up to this point. However, I pointed out in another thread that Georgia was his best game to date. He played within himself better last game. Hopefully he continues to improve. The first 3 games he did not live up to his moniker.
Great post. Deserves reading (and re-reading so I quoted it).
Posted on 10/2/13 at 5:25 am to AlwysATgr
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It appears as if Louis just runs completely opposite from the play before running into a blocker, wakes-up, then finds the ball,
This is the part the Welter critics don't seem to realize. They think we've got some AA sitting on the bence, but stupid Miles won't let Chavis play him.
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