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re: Anthony Jennings Pass Attempts Versus Mississippi St

Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:18 am to
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5519 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:18 am to
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You want to know the first time Jennings threw a ball to a receiver that wasn't his first look? It was in the first game.
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One throw??
Are you really this stupid?

The FIRST TIME is always ONE TIME.

You said you'd never seen the first time Jennings threw a ball to a receiver that wasn't his first look. It took me about two minutes to find one example.

You want more examples, look at the game film for each game. Jennings has done it in every game.
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
14930 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:25 am to
Oh, you mean like when he threw to Dickson and Dickson jumped to catch it for no reason and landed out of bounds?
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
2971 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:29 am to
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Jennings did not miss several open receivers.
maybe he missed the same receiver several times???
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He made 1 or 2 bad reads
come on.. 1 or 2? i don't dislike Jennings. Up until this game I thought he gave us the best chance to win this season, but he regressed this game and Harris impressed albiet against a prevent defense most of the time..
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it's very iffy that we even score on the option if he pitches it. It's the sec, they can run, no guarantee we score.
meh.. it looks pretty clear, but you are right no guarantee.. other than if the qb keeps the ball he will get stuffed that time..
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It's really fascinating that ppl are so obsessed with one quarterback and hate the other. Jennings has fullback and TE personnel in for almost his whole game. Harris comes in against a 3 man front playing soft zone with 3-4 wide and ppl go crazy about how great he is. We have yet to see Jennings in that type of situation
this is really my gripe.. not so much the QB, although like i said it looked like Jennings regressed and Harris showed improvement, but my issue is mainly with the play calling.. i don't believe Miles gave Jennings the best chance to suceed, although, like i said earlier, Jennings didn't help himself with several bad reads and some missed throws...
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
2971 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:30 am to
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when he threw to Dickson and Dickson jumped to catch it for no reason and landed out of bounds?
that was on Dickson... he wasn't aware of where he was on the field for sure!
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:34 am to
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It's really fascinating that ppl are so obsessed with one quarterback and hate the other.


If by "fascinating" you mean completely fricking hackneyed, sure.
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:34 am to
This is like the Les apologists' statistical arguments. You can play with numbers all you want and spin things to this or that, but most people can tell by watching that the O is not getting it done. Its not all on Jennings. I blame Les for hiring Grimes and chaning ou blocking scheme and put the rest of the blame on Les for the crap game plans.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:36 am to
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Are you really this stupid? The FIRST TIME is always ONE TIME.


Man, I don't know how to break this down to you, but I will try. The point was that Jennings stares down his receivers. You are getting hung up on "one time" and your best example is on a play where he throws to a receiver on the same side of the field as he was innitially looking. Not only that, but you feel like this one example overrides the vast majority of his throws where he stares down 1 receiver and either throws into coverage or becomes a statue.

You, my man, are the best the rant has to offer. When people read this board, people like you come to mind.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
44558 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:41 am to
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Speaking of TE personnel, did he even look at a TE down the field all game?



yeah he did. besides the pass to Dickson, there was the bootleg where he threw to a covered Gordon in the end zone when he had Melvin Jones wide open underneath for a nice gain.
Posted by PurpleandGoldmember
Member since Jun 2014
483 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:42 am to
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This is like the Les apologists' statistical arguments. You can play with numbers all you want and spin things to this or that, but most people can tell by watching that the O is not getting it done. Its not all on Jennings. I blame Les for hiring Grimes and chaning ou blocking scheme and put the rest of the blame on Les for the crap game plans.



I guess Cameron has nothing to do with the offense.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83554 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:43 am to
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I guess Cameron has nothing to do with the offense.


only when the offense is good
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
2971 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:47 am to
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he threw to a covered Gordon in the end zone when he had Melvin Jones wide open underneath for a nice gain.
another bad read..
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29265 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:50 am to
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Jennings might not have the strongest arm on the team.


going out on a limb there eh?
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29265 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:52 am to
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Anthony Jennings Pass Attempts Versus Mississippi St


resulted in a field goal and getting LSU into the redzone to punch it in with hilliard. 10 total points.

that's what jennings passing did for LSU vs MSU
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
11875 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:01 am to
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so according to this...LSU passed more on 1st and 2nd down than 3rd down

interesting...

that really goes against the run, run, pass bitchfest that the Rant loves to do



there were 13 3rd down plays........

1 was a RB run, and 12 were either passes, sacks, or Jenning scramble/runs. And by the way, the one run was from the 1 yard line

So what pathetic point were you trying to make?

'Interesting' huh?????????
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5519 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:12 am to
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You, my man, are the best the rant has to offer. When people read this board, people like you come to mind.
You say something has never happened. I show you an example from the first game that it has happened. You say it's not enough.

The point is that Jennings makes his reads. I’ve given you proof of it. But that’s not the real problem you have.


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The point was that Jennings stares down his receivers. [Y]our best example is on a play where he throws to a receiver on the same side of the field as he was initially looking.
I don't think you understand anything about QB reads or progressions.

I don't think you understand what a QB is looking at downfield after the ball is snapped.

Do you really think that a QB is supposed to scan the field to look at all available receivers in some kind of order like WRX, WRY, TE, WRZ, RB?

On many pass plays, you make a read pre-snap and post-snap. The read post-snap is typically based on looking at a defender and his reaction, not looking at a receiver.

So when a QB looks downfield after the snap on a pass play, most times he is looking at one guy: a defensive player. You call it "staring down" the receiver, but he is actually reading a defender. The QB will throw it to one of two targets depending on what that defender does. Most of the time, those two targets are on the same side of the field.

That's the whole point of reading the defender's reactions. Is the defender in zone or man? Which receiver is he covering? QBs almost never have time to look at 3 or 4 receivers. Most plays are not intended to have a QB look at 3 or 4 receivers even when there are that many receivers involved in the pass play. If the play breaks down and is extended beyond two seconds, then those receivers might be targets, but that’s not the intent of the play. Plays are not intended to break down even if the plays do have contingency routes if they do break down.

In the offense LSU has been primarily running, there have not been that many receivers involved in the play. So where, exactly, do you want Jennings or Harris to look?


You, my man, are the best the rant has to offer.

You let your emotions and bias control your analysis and determine your conclusion.

You just "know" that someone fricked up even if you don't know what they are supposed to be doing. You use words that you don't fully understand, but you've read other sheep use.

You say you've never seen something even when it's happened. And when someone gives you an example, you say that's it's not enough.

When people read this board, people like you come to mind. :bow:
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:15 am to
tl;dr
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:15 am to
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so according to this...LSU passed more on 1st and 2nd down than 3rd down






No, thats just passing. Sadly these LSU atheltic department sock puppets never provide their data source, nor show a complete picture.
Posted by Reames239
Hammond
Member since Sep 2014
676 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:16 am to
So you admit Les Miles has no clue what he is doing?

If it makes so much more since the spread the field, to the point that the second string inferior quarterback scores more, then we should do it with the starter.






Posted by PurpleandGoldmember
Member since Jun 2014
483 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:18 am to
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No, thats just passing. Sadly these LSU atheltic department sock puppets never provide their data source, nor show a complete picture.


Are you calling me an LSU athletic department sock puppet? I am not affiliated with LSU other than being a longtime season ticket holder and having a degree from the University.

My data source is espn.com play by play.

I gave a complete picture of the point I was trying to make. My point was not about having more passes on 1st and 2nd down compared to 3rd. Someone else brought that up.
Posted by PurpleandGoldmember
Member since Jun 2014
483 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:19 am to
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tl;dr


Looks like you got pwn3t and are bailing. Probably the smart thing to do at this point after being proved wrong.
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