re: Alex Lange and his draft stock

I said this last week. Scouts know Lange for the most part. But this "new" Deichmann has them excited. Multiple scouts started getting on the phone and recording his last ABs after he turned the wind around completely for 421 ft. It's an interesting discussion to speculate how much money he has earned already. His arm is above average. And he's making a play or two above average too. Again, it's not "bashing" Lange to say he may not be picked in the top 15.

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the questions will start rolling in about his ability and composure.

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My analytical side:

His fastball speed seems to be fine. However, he does not have movement like Aaron Nola did. Consequently, teams have been able to put the fat part of the barrel on many of his fastballs this year.

Like Big Ben has stated, when he struggles with command early in the count, he has to come across the heart of the plate more often, hoping for a swing and miss.

He hasn't developed a reliable change up, either.

Not sure if he needs to work more with a 2 seamer to generate more movement, or throw fastballs with less than max velocity so he can regain some accuracy. Anxious to see what he and Dunn do to regain his dominance.



My rantard side:

He's getting pounded more often in 2017. He is also sporting those 2017 tats, all-white spikes, and that mean glare after strikeouts. His pregame ritual appears to be an unproductive mind game.

None of those things seems to have improved his consistency, so therefore that's got to be the problem.

Deichman can run, hit for power, is an above average speed and arm, his defense needs work and he needs to continue to take pitches laying off the bad stuff.
Yeah he will definitely pass Lange if he continues to develop.
Deichman has major league talent.

Lange doesn't have a change of any kind and little movement on his FB. Right now he is sitting at compensatory to mid second round. There are much better pitchers out there including on his own team, but he won't be picked before the 4th because of his upside is so limited.
Lange has a bigger upside.

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Lange...

There are much better pitchers out there including on his own team

his upside is so limited.

Lange has a bigger upside.

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Where are all these college pitchers with a legit 3rd pitch. Most pitchers dont develop a decent 3rd pitch until its their job to throw pitches.

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Then he better throw gasoline or be like Aaron Nola with movement and command to be a 1st rounder. Also, it's not just college pitchers he's competing with, it's high school seniors too. And all things being equal, I think most--certainly not all(I think the A's for one really value college experience)--would rather have the 18-year-old over the 21-year-old.

Right now is "performing" as our third best pitcher. I'm not talking about history or talent. Hope he hits his groove in June.

Anthony Ranaudo had a very disappointing Junior Year and still went at the end of the 1st Round(between rounds I think)

Exactly. Good comparison here.

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Then he better throw gasoline or be like Aaron Nola with movement and command to be a 1st rounder. Also, it's not just college pitchers he's competing with, it's high school seniors too. And all things being equal, I think most--certainly not all(I think the A's for one really value college experience)--would rather have the 18-year-old over the 21-year-old.

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Agreed.
My post wasnt in reference to Lange. It was about not having a legit 3rd pitch. There are very few college or hs pitchers with legit 3rd pitches that are consistently thrown for outs.