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re: After careful thought I'm a changed man on my thoughts on coach o

Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:36 am to
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22789 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:36 am to
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Orgeron has a history of taking talented teams to losing records.


This stupid, inaccurate statement has received more up votes than down votes. That, in a nutshell should tell any rational person all they need to know about the morons that abound on The Rant.
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:48 am to
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Thats a third of the season nimrod


Is it your opinion LSU is about to begin playing vastly better against a vastly harder part of our schedule starting in two weeks? I wish I could believe that, but there is nothing I have seem so far which backs up any such dream. And since when is a third of a regular season that includes a SEC beat down not an acceptable amount of games for a ranter to base a pro or con decision on?


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I lived thru the last few years of Miles.


I must have missed it, but when was that year which included a 30 point skull fricking loss to Mississippi State that saw the LSU team roll over and play dead?

Not many are upset that Les is gone. We just assumed LSU would improve with him being gone a year and not be on the verge of a fricking collapse.
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:08 pm to
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It was time for a change from Les. It was time for him to go!!


Nothing wrong with a change, but its fricking stupid to change to a no body that any body wanted!

Alleva fricked this up and looks to be on the verge of fricking up LSU football. That might be ok with you, but it damn sure isn't ok with me. My mistake was not being more vocal about the shite show Alleva was putting on beginning in November of 2015. That's over and until Alleva and O prove me wrong, I am going to bitch. Sorry if that offends you.
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4530 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:18 pm to
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Not many are upset that Les is gone. We just assumed LSU would improve with him being gone a year and not be on the verge of a fricking collapse.


You should hide under the kitchen table in the fetal position. It was one game, the defense was gassed in the 2nd qtr and the scheme was suspect. The offense is limited and scheme is also suspect at this point but has shown some bright spots.

I'm not going to panic at this point because I see some improvement. If it doesn't work then it didn't work. But this team had challenges coming into the 1st game and it had little to do with the O hire as most of you are portraying. It's his job to pull this all together and put a team on the field that competes for SEC/National Championships. It's a bit premature to think that he can't get this done.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:27 pm to
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The offense is limited and scheme is also suspect at this point but has shown some bright spots.

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I'm not going to panic at this point because I see some improvement. If it doesn't work then it didn't work. But this team had challenges coming into the 1st game and it had little to do with the O hire as most of you are portraying. It's his job to pull this all together and put a team on the field that competes for SEC/National Championships. It's a bit premature to think that he can't get this done.


Agree.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59085 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:30 pm to
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It's his job to pull this all together and put a team on the field that competes for SEC/National Championships. It's a bit premature to think that he can't get this done.


What in his history makes you think that he is the one to get this done?
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:31 pm to
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But this team had challenges coming into the 1st game and it had little to do with the O hire as most of you are portraying. It's his job to pull this all together and put a team on the field that competes for SEC/National Championships. It's a bit premature to think that he can't get this done.


One thing is he completely responsible for is effort. All we heard was how much they wanted him as HC. Now they got him and they were "lethargic" going into their first true SEC test, by O's own admission.

I have no idea what's keeping you from blaming him right now. He literally told us he's failing at one of his few duties.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 12:32 pm
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 12:46 pm to
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One thing is he completely responsible for is effort

Do you really see a lack of effort?

We're not flying around like I would expect, but that seems like it is more from youth and confusion than effort.

You quoted the word lethargic, but I don't remember O using that word. Did he? I remember he said the practices the week of the MSU game were't very good, but just don't remember him saying the team was lethargic. Regardless, I don't think lethargic is synonymous with lack of effort.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 1:04 pm to
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Is it your opinion LSU is about to begin playing vastly better against a vastly harder part of our schedule starting in two weeks?


There is no indication that we will. But no one knows this yet.

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And since when is a third of a regular season that includes a SEC beat down not an acceptable amount of games for a ranter to base a pro or con decision on?



When there are a lot of new moving parts. I mean we just established a brand new offense for the first time in years. That alone should warrant a little more of a "wait and see" approach.

I get it. You want CEO gone because we haven't killed our opponents to this point 252-0.


This "fricking collapse" that you speak of....can we at least wait until the FL game to declare the program dead in the water?
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 1:07 pm to
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Thinking that Les had to go no matter who we replaced him with is about as simple minded as it comes.


But the rant told me that anyone could win big at LSU.
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 1:13 pm to
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I'm not going to panic


LSU has beaten three teams who already have combined for eight losses and haven't looked all that good in beating those teams. They loss to an SEC team who was skull fricked in their next SEC game. You don't have to panic, but we all should be highly concerned considering the SEC schedule we have coming up.

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It was one game


The team gave up in that one game and played like shite Saturday night against a vastly inferior Syracuse team.

O has been leading LSU football for a year and has been at LSU since 2015 in important positions. He lost seven of this years top ten Louisiana recruits, he has been in charge when a number of players who could help transferred out, and he picked his staff. What's more, he is directly responsible for seeing that the team is ready to play. So far, he has failed at home against Florida last year and at Mississippi State this year.

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You should hide under the kitchen table in the fetal position


And you should remove your head from your arse. This team has showed serious problems. Wait and see was ok until State bent us over and Syracuse played us almost dead even until two minutes to go, but I am done with wait and see. That's how we got into this crap to begin with O and his wait and see boys.
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
10906 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 1:13 pm to
We wont win 9 games. I really hope I am wrong.
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4530 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 1:18 pm to
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What in his history makes you think that he is the one to get this done?


I don't know that he will but, I do know that he was hired to do the job and should be given a chance and he is 3-1 thus far and 9-3 since taking over and he is 15-5 since leaving Ole Miss.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 1:18 pm to
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And you should remove your head from your arse. This team has showed serious problems. Wait and see was ok until State bent us over and Syracuse played us almost dead even until two minutes to go, but I am done with wait and see. That's how we got into this crap to begin with O and his wait and see boys.




You mad baw?
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4530 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 3:17 pm to
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LSU has beaten three teams who already have combined for eight losses and haven't looked all that good in beating those teams. They loss to an SEC team who was skull fricked in their next SEC game. You don't have to panic, but we all should be highly concerned considering the SEC schedule we have coming up.


I don't know what to tell you that I haven't already said. This is a challenged team in multiple areas that he was hired to lead. He is 3-1 and there will be more losses. Jimbo, Nick Saban, Tom Herman, etc. could have been hired to coach this team and results will not be much different at this point.

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He lost seven of this years top ten Louisiana recruits, he has been in charge when a number of players who could help transferred out, and he picked his staff.


A coach gets fired mid-season and you don't expect their to be repercussions with recruits, come on man!!

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he has been in charge when a number of players who could help transferred out, and he picked his staff


Ok. Players leaving their team had never happened before O took over? He kept the entire staff together with the exception of OC, Jabbar and BDP. Adding TRob and Canada to already strong staff.

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And you should remove your head from your arse. This team has showed serious problems.


You m'fers are a trip. No shite this team has problems. Keep freaking out about it!! It's a great look and helps all the way around.

What do you want to happen? What would you do to fix everything?

Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 3:24 pm to
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I don't know what to tell you that I haven't already said. This is a challenged team in multiple areas that he was hired to lead. He is 3-1 and there will be more losses. Jimbo, Nick Saban, Tom Herman, etc. could have been hired to coach this team and results will not be much different at this point.


Getting tired of this hypothetical being interjected into arguments as if it helps to adequately rebut anything.
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4530 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 3:34 pm to
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Getting tired of this hypothetical being interjected into arguments as if it helps to adequately rebut anything.


It's as hypothetical as saying O will have losing season and LSU is on verge of collapse.

So, I'm wrong? Let's say Jimbo, Herman and Saban are better at this point....what does that make them, 4-0? Quit drinking the regurgitated spoog, frosty.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 3:35 pm
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20362 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 3:49 pm to
At least with Jimbo, Herman, or Saban you would have the comfort in knowing that they have succeeded before in running their own programs vs someone who was absolutely terrible at his last stop.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 4:03 pm to
It's amusing in someways and sad in other ways that just last yr the team was being called as one of the most talented teams in college football by many on here to only be called challenged 12 months later.

I don't know what Nick would do with this team, but I'm pretty damn sure they would not have given up as they did in the Miss State game or gone to sleep at the switch as they did in the last Sat. night.

I'm also pretty sure Nick wouldn't have been walking the sidelines as if he needed to have a good bowel movement while the team was struggling.
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