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"A Trend that LSU Football Should Fear" ESPN Article

Posted on 9/24/09 at 2:29 pm
Posted by TigerTig
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 2:29 pm
just saw that this is a headline on espn.com but it's an insider article. anybody with an account know what it was talking about?
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 2:32 pm to
I'm on ESPN and have insider, but I don't see the article
Posted by Tigerbait337
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 2:33 pm to
LINK

Thats the article ProjectP2294..
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Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 2:34 pm to
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Thats the article ProjectP2294..


thanks
Posted by Camp Randall
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 2:34 pm to
Aggie resurgence in/around Tyler?
Posted by Tigerbait337
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 2:35 pm to
Cliffnotes if you dont mind ProjectP..
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 2:35 pm to
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just saw that this is a headline on espn.com but it's an insider article. anybody with an account know what it was talking about?


it's about the MSU spread moving from LSU -14.5 to like LSU -12.5 meaning that Vegas doesn't like LSU very much in this game.

eta: it's not nearly as serious as the headline implies
This post was edited on 9/24/09 at 2:38 pm
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 2:37 pm to

i thought parachute pants were back in style
Posted by DollaChoppa
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 2:37 pm to
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it's not nearly as serious as the headline implies



typical espn pointlessness then?
Posted by TigerTig
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 2:37 pm to
thanks man
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 2:39 pm to
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typical espn pointlessness then?


depends on if you want to put money on the game. Apparently MSU has been bet so heavily in Vegas that you can get LSU having to cover less than 2 touchdowns.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 2:39 pm to
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i thought parachute pants were back in style


don't even joke about that
Posted by harper6464
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 2:43 pm to
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meaning that Vegas doesn't like LSU very much in this game.


yes and no, vegas isn't saying thats what they think the actual score will be. thats just the over/under they think the most people will bite on.

Posted by DEANintheYAY
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 2:43 pm to
Posted Sept. 24 at 11:35 a.m. ET

WEEK 4 CFB POINT SPREAD MOVES
Paul Stone sounds like Texas football. He grew up south of Tyler, in Jacksonville ("home to two NFL quarterbacks, the McCown brothers," he says proudly), went to UT 25 years ago and now lives in Tyler, about 90 miles east of Dallas. "This is a real hotbed of D-I talent. Earl Campbell is from here. So is Matt Flynn, who led LSU to the national title a few years ago, and Ciron Black, LSU's left tackle, who will play on Sundays."

The man studies the college game for 40 hours a week during the season and just as many when it ends, constantly tracking historical, against-the-spread trends. Here is how highly regarded he is: With all the wise guys floating around Vegas, it's this guy from Texas -- who owns trade schools with his wife -- who has a picks column in the Las Vegas Review Journal.

Which is exactly why I called him this week to go over college football's five biggest line moves heading into Saturday. Remember, these are lessons in handicapping strategy, not just take-it-or-leave-it picks. So be wise and take some notes.

Matchup: LSU at Mississippi State
Line moves: LSU opened as 14.5-point favorites, currently 13. Line went as low as 12.5.
What that means: An SEC doormat taking action against a top 10 national power? That's sharps getting impatient with Les Miles.

Stone says: "Certainly LSU has been a little bit less impressive than most anticipated. The Tigers have an NFL-caliber tailback, a first-round left tackle and great talent at receiver. The victory at Washington doesn't look as lackluster as it did. Still, this offense is not the juggernaut everyone expected it to be. So that's making wise guys think about the other side. So is the fact Dan Mullen, the first-year coach at Mississippi State, got a win last week in conference at Vandy and his team scored points against Auburn the week before. I made this line at 14.5 and with a gun to my head I'd play LSU. But that's because of history: Looking back over time, teams that aren't used to winning who actually do usually come down a week later."
Posted by noonan
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 2:55 pm to
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meaning that Vegas doesn't like LSU very much in this game.


doesn't that mean the fans don't like LSU as much as vegas does?
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 2:57 pm to
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vegas isn't saying thats what they think the actual score will be.


I meant the betters in Vegas pushing the line down by betting MSU heavy. I worded it poorly though.
Posted by Elle a shoe
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 3:00 pm to
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i thought parachute pants were back in style

Posted by PetTiger
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 3:03 pm to
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doesn't that mean the fans don't like LSU as much as vegas does?


I was under the impression that after the "open", each book adjusts the line. After that time, usually Monday afternoon, the line moves with the action. So in this case, more people took State. Like you said, it just means the people betting don't like LSU giving up 2 TD's. Also, they adjusted the line back to -13. That means that too many people were taking LSU @ -12.5. It all depends on how comfortable Vegas is with where the money is being get.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 9/24/09 at 3:05 pm to
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I was under the impression that after the "open", each book adjusts the line. After that time, usually Monday afternoon, the line moves with the action. So in this case, more people took State. Like you said, it just means the people betting don't like LSU giving up 2 TD's. Also, they adjusted the line back to -13. That means that too many people were taking LSU @ -12.5. It all depends on how comfortable Vegas is with where the money is being get.


this is how I should have said it the first time.


I said Vegas meaning the collection of bettors, but everyone read it as Vegas meaning the people setting the lines, it was my mistake.
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