re: A realistic prediction (revised) Where all the down votes now!

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Right.
This is always the argument of people that have no argument.

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or the argument of people who like to make fun of people such as yourself who refer to the team they never played for as "we"

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Classic. Learn to spell moron if youre gonna question someone's intellect.

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my joke

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your head

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Thats not data. Thats opinion. Saying Miles has underachieved is an opinion dumbass.

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so you are admitting you did not read the article I posted?

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Educate yourself

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ironic that the person telling me to educate myself cannot be bothered to read an article about college football. as the saying goes, "ignorance is bliss".

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So based on your comments, it looks like you are suggesting we should give up all hope of beating Bama except maybe once in ten years, and accept annua

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What? At no time did i say we cant beat Bama or should give up on trying to beat bama. Good god.

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accept annual or semi-annual losses to Ole Miss

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So 2 losses in the last 6 means we loses regularly?

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occasionally Florida

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Miles is 5-1 in the last 6.

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arky

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3-3 in the last 6.

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lose 3-4 or more games a year at LSU

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So were you unhappy with Saban at lsu?

Because Saban lost less than 3 games once.

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We should just accept and embrace the fact that LSU will never be better than a 2-4 loss a year program.

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Where are all these programs in the sec that dont lose 2-3 games a year?
All of 1 sec program doesnt lose 2-3 games every year. Where are all these coaches that dont lose 2-3 games a year?
Saban and Meyer are literally the only coaches that dont lose 2-3 games on average. I want this list of coaches that dont lose 2-3 games on average.

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By the way I'm not advocating getting rid of Les right now, but 3 or more losses with this year's team and I will be.

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Agreed. Ive repeatedly said there is no excuse for not winning the west this year. If we have more than 1 loss then its time to move on. That doesnt mean that Miles has underachieved the majority of his time here. You cant be the most successful coach ever at a top 10 alltime program and be an underachiever the majority of his tenure.


As lucky as Saban has been( majore scheduling advantages the entire bridge schedule era, voters forgiving losses that no other program would ve forgiven for) Miles has been just as unlucky.

Read your own damn link.

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are we tracking attrition per se, though the lower value for the senior class captures the effect of average attrition for a class. Juniors are more represented on All-SEC teams, which shows that teams rely most heavily on their junior talent.

This gives us a rough approximation of what a team's talent SHOULD be. Now, it could be lower like LSU last season, which had an extremely small senior class left on campus. Or it could be greater for a squad with a successful redshirt program.

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Opinion. They arent even taking into account juniors that left early. Theu are usong talent that SHOULD BE ON THE FIELD. Which program has lost more juniors that any program the last 5 years? Oh just lsu and its not close. Before last season lsu had lost almost double the amount of juniors as the next closest program. 21 juniors lost and bama was second with 12.

We both want lsu to win. Youre decent poster. I apologize for saying you dont know shite about cfb.

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You need to educate yourself because youre taking an articles OPINIONS as gospel.the same article that expected lsu to win 5.6 sec games in 2014 when we didnt have 1 returning skill position player with more more tha 1 start in their entire college career.

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YOU need to work on your reading comprehension skills

"I would warn you that it doesn't work as an actual projection system because the system is working off of Expected Talent on hand, not Actual Talent. For that, we'd have to track the redshirts and attrition of each individual team and make adjustments to the Talent Score."

he concedes there is no perfect method.

"Les Miles has slightly underachieved the past few seasons in regards to the talent on hand, but not as dramatically as his detractors insist. "

which is precisely what I said last page.

Les deserves a LOT of credit for being a great recruiter. the expectations would not be where they are if Les did not consistently bring in top 10 talent. but the fact of the matter is that Les has underachieved, albeit slightly, with the talent he has. HOWEVER, as the article points out, only a handful of teams actually overperform. and this trend is not exclusive to the SEC.



TL;DR - it is really hard to meet expectations

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u mad?

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Why would i be mad about discussing lsu sports on a sports message board?

I tried to extend an olive branch in my last post.
I cant take an article serious that doesnt take into account juniors that left. They even addressed it in the article that they used talent THATS SUPPOSED to be there and not the talent that is there.

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Saban at lsu never once faced a sec team that would go on to play in the title gane let alone win one.

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One could argue Aubie '04 worthy, but was a L.

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The funny thing is, Miles would probably answer "yes". After winning a BCS bowl and a BCS title in his first 3 years, he set the bar for himself pretty frikin high.

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He is most definitely a casualty of his own success of he doesnt win big this coming year.

Either way this upcoming season will either make or break his legacy at lsu.

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Saban brought LSU back from the dead

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Feels dead when you have two straight losing seasons and going 2-8 before Saban arrived. It really felt like LSU was heading back to Halman years.

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As lucky as Saban has been

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You could make better arguments if you'd stop saying stuff like this.

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You could make better arguments if you'd stop saying stuff like this.

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SABAN'S LUCK AT BAMA.
1. Never dealing with major injury.
2. From 2009-2014 playing USC,UF,And UGA and total of 3 games while lsu has played these 3 teams a total of 9 times in that span.
3. During the bridge scheduling era Bama never once played even he outright 3rd place finisher in the east.
4. During the bridge schedule era Bama got 4 sec west home games in 2012 while every other west team got 3 and A&M got 2 west home games.
5. Not playing UGA during the regular season for 7 years.
6. being voted into a title game without even winning their division and getting in over team with a far far better resume.
7. Arkansas converting a 4th and 25 against ole miss that would've ended the game and Bama wouldnt have woj the west.


Please show me another sec program getting all these breaks.