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re: Thought Dupre Canceled his trip to Bama?

Posted on 1/20/14 at 8:53 am to
Posted by LSUME86
Baton Rouge of course...
Member since Dec 2006
1869 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 8:53 am to
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They really hurt us this year and probably took the #1 spot from us
I hope little Nicky's ego has him focusing on "winning" the mythical recruiting title every year, taking players he doesn't need or plan to use just for that purpose. It will be his downfall. Not so sure we didn't see this exact effect in their program this year.
This post was edited on 1/20/14 at 8:54 am
Posted by Meno's Paradox
Member since Apr 2013
453 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:39 am to
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hope little Nicky's ego has him focusing on "winning" the mythical recruiting title every year, taking players he doesn't need or plan to use just for that purpose


Are you serious? What about him - either when he was at LSU or now that he's at Bama - makes you think he watches recruiting rankings? He recruits the kids he thinks fit his system and will help him win. You know he thinks (rightly so) that he's better at ranking/evaluating players than some recruiting service any way.

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It will be his downfall

uhhh, not likely. probably a woman or players growing tired of him. I doubt recruiting a bunch of highly ranked talent is going to be his downfall.

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Not so sure we didn't see this exact effect in their program this year.


What was Bama, 11-2? Who doesn't think they play for another championship if AU doesn't strike lightning? I think they play FSU and possibly win. We'd all love to have an 11-2 "downfall".

LSU has a ton of good things going on. Focusing on Saban/Bama and looking for any little sign of downfall is not among them.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25946 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:10 am to
Who is that in the back? TB is out of jail already?
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17891 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:10 am to
i noticed they spelled ALABAMA backwards on his shirt.

not a good sign.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73503 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:12 am to
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TB is out of jail already?


Lane knows the guards.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
20874 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 11:32 am to
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Didn't 1/2 teach you guys anything?
Believe no one, suspect everyone. There are no locks.


I really like the 18 we have committed, and I hope none of them switch. As to the others, I agree, nothing would surprise me, and this year just showed how much all the recruiting services like to build up drama but really don't know crap about where most kids are going...
Posted by LSUME86
Baton Rouge of course...
Member since Dec 2006
1869 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 1:12 pm to
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Are you serious? What about him - either when he was at LSU or now that he's at Bama - makes you think he watches recruiting rankings? He recruits the kids he thinks fit his system and will help him win.
You're thinking too superficially. How often has it been said that Bama is recruiting someone just to get to another player or to keep them from going to LSU. This might or might not be happening, but I would argue that Bama this year is clearly a drop off from Bama last year. Sure, you can blame it on a dropoff in coaching, but Nicky's having to recalibrate (fire coaches and throw players under the bus) because he doesn't have the key talent in the key places like he has in years past.
Posted by Magician
cocodrie
Member since Dec 2013
319 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 2:44 pm to
"Lane knows the guards"

This post was edited on 1/20/14 at 2:46 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 3:06 pm to
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I really like the 18 we have committed, and I hope none of them switch. As to the others, I agree, nothing would surprise me, and this year just showed how much all the recruiting services like to build up drama but really don't know crap about where most kids are going


Oh I love this class we have right now as well. Even if we were to not add any more meaningful pieces, this would still be a damn good class, and I still expect to close strong.

Obviously Valentine is singing LSU's praises and I would be shocked if he didn't come to LSU at this point. Other than that I have no idea of how this class will shape out and I'm not going to make any more assumptions on who those final pieces will be.
This post was edited on 1/20/14 at 3:07 pm
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20020 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 5:58 pm to
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Rankings don't matter, especially when you're talking about the difference between 1-5


They do for perception, and you can't argue that. I wish it weren't true but it is.
Posted by MF Doom
I'm only Joshin'
Member since Oct 2008
11712 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 6:04 pm to
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How often has it been said that Bama is recruiting someone just to get to another player or to keep them from going to LSU.


The only people that think this are rantards
Posted by TigerRantMan99
Bucktown
Member since Feb 2009
2076 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 6:28 pm to
Smart asses

Chi's brother is in the Bama shirt. Chi is on the right
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25946 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 6:40 pm to
How old is his brother?
Posted by ezrulz
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2011
1332 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 8:46 pm to
Les may not care about rankings much as long as he fills needs, but Nick damn sure does. You don't finish #1 in recruiting 4 out of 5 years by not caring about rankings. It's important because any #1 rated class believes they are the best team in the country and should never lose a game from the moment they set foot on campus. That level of confidence is necessary to win multiple championships. You also need about three straight top 3 recruiting classes to have the depth needed to replace NFL talent year after year with little or no dropoff. The great thing about Les is his ability to get players to play hard for him and that makes LSU an extremely tough out in any big game as long as Les is roaming the sidelines. But if he doesn't get the top flight athletes he'll lose like anyone else.
This post was edited on 1/20/14 at 8:54 pm
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 8:55 pm to
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Les may not care about rankings much as long as he fills needs, but Nick damn sure does. You don't finish #1 in recruiting 4 out of 5 years by not caring about rankings. It's important because any #1 rated class believes they are the best team in the country from the moment they set foot on campus and should never lose a game. That level of confidence is necessary to win multiple championships. You also need about three straight top 3 recruiting classes to have the depth needed to replace NFL talent year after year with little or no dropoff. The great thing about Les is his ability to get players to play hard for him and that makes LSU an extremely tough out in any big game as long as Les is roaming the sidelines. But if he doesn't get the top flight athletes he'll lose like anyone else.
Yet the Great and All Powerful Saban is on a two game losing streak?
Posted by ezrulz
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2011
1332 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:22 pm to
Yep. Nick is not a great gameday coach but he's been consistently getting the best classes. So he has the leeway to only play guys that execute his scheme exactly the way he expects them to. But if he plays a team with similar talent or a scheme they struggle to defend there's a very good chance they lose. There are just so few teams that can meet that criteria in a given year that they usually only play one and wear everyone else out. I'm not a Nick fan because I don't respect the tactics he uses and I believe that crap will eventually catch up to him. But his record speaks for itself.
Posted by sammyptiger
Member since Nov 2012
1037 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:25 pm to
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Yep. Nick is not a great gameday coach
WTF? You serious?

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But if he plays a team with similar talent or a scheme they struggle to defend there's a very good chance they lose.
No. This is false. They usually win.

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But his record speaks for itself.
Sure does.
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:27 pm to
You're right, but don't forget masterful scheduling. The only time he's had to play tough games back to back recently was vs us, then A&M in 12. It's a tad easier to only be challenged 2 or three times per year, with those games spread out.
Posted by Smokedawg
Finding Lennay Kekua
Member since Dec 2008
5409 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:35 pm to
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The only time he's had to play tough games back to back recently was vs us, then A&M in 12
that's was just a freak occurrence, nobody at the SEC office expected aTm to be any good at all, especially produce a freshman heisman winner
Posted by ezrulz
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2011
1332 posts
Posted on 1/20/14 at 9:42 pm to
This is the truth^^^. He's only gone undefeated once with all those top classes and ended Les' undefeated bid with that historic bcs championship game. What that game did for his program cannot be understated. Utah, a&m and Ok beat him soundly during their run. The recruiting success has allowed him to reload and set such a high standard.
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