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Ranking HS Freshmen and Sophmores

Posted on 1/11/16 at 8:49 am
Posted by Barrister
Member since Jul 2012
4611 posts
Posted on 1/11/16 at 8:49 am
As the world of college recruiting has become more and more competitive I have noticed that multiple national organizations and position camps have started ranking HS Freshmen and Sophmore classes.

For those of you who follow recruiting, what validity, if any, do you put in these rankings? Does it target kids to watch? Do kids ranked that early have an advantage because they continued to get looks throughout their HS career?

Or is it a waste of time?
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 1/11/16 at 8:52 am to
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For those of you who follow recruiting, what validity, if any, do you put in these rankings? Does it target kids to watch? Do kids ranked that early have an advantage because they continued to get looks throughout their HS career?


They only rank a small number. I think Moses only got his ranking this past spring.

I don't care one way or the other and really don't put any stock into it. It really only gives stars to kids who are obviously physical standouts. What I don't want is early stars influencing later results. Just because a kid is a 5 star in his soph campaign, doesn't mean he's a 5 star when everyone else starts growing by the time they are seniors.
This post was edited on 1/11/16 at 8:53 am
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25946 posts
Posted on 1/11/16 at 8:54 am to
It's a pretty big waste of time outside of a few obvious players who are much more physically advanced than their peers. The bottom of the list turns into a bunch of fill in prospects, and to me its not really fair to them.
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 1/11/16 at 9:03 am to
I agree.

What you don't really want happening is the ESPN effect to 247 and rivals. They need to continue to perfect their craft. As the industry grows we need better analysis, more analysts, and more coverage in areas that don't offer much coverage. They need to make it their goal to rank every legitimate prospect in the country.

I know this is not possible, but it should be their goal. What we don't need is 247 going out and trying to rank freshmen and sophomores rather than concentrate on juniors and seniors. They start to do that before they perfect the abovementioned issues and it will turn into ESPN; a company more concerned on broad strokes over everything sports related with no legitimate information and only general information.

Now, you can probably easily rank sophomore standouts with no issues. THey are at the same camps and can be seen with all the other kids. Plus, they're easy to pick out because they are physically more gifted at a younger age.

So, no problem with what they are doing now. But they shouldn't go any further. Stick to what they are doing now which is covering an ever growing niche market better than ESPN could ever do.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
8884 posts
Posted on 1/11/16 at 9:04 am to
Way to early IMO.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25946 posts
Posted on 1/11/16 at 9:05 am to
Posted by jprice4608
Member since Dec 2011
944 posts
Posted on 1/11/16 at 9:07 am to
I had a friend ranked in the top 50 freshman in Georgia for basketball. In his senior year, he did not make the team.....
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68316 posts
Posted on 1/11/16 at 9:14 am to
They arent really ranking them, just rating a few guys that stand out as a freshman or sophomore. It's not like they are ranking thousands of kids like they do seniors. Part of what shows how good a kid might be early on is simply the early offers rolling in for them (i.e. a Dylan Moses or Leonard Fournette)

Ratings/rankings are always subject to change though so it's not like it means much other than to possibly identify the top top top talent for down the road.
This post was edited on 1/11/16 at 9:15 am
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5532 posts
Posted on 1/11/16 at 9:44 am to
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Ranking HS Freshmen and Sophmores
Like preseason rankings, it's something to write, and it's something to read, but it's mostly guesswork and has almost nil value.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60294 posts
Posted on 1/11/16 at 10:25 am to
DJ Banks from WM was rated a top 100 sophomore in the nation. He ended up at Tulane before transferring to Tech.

It's always hit or miss with recruiting, but a lot more misses at that young of an age.
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