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Potential 2013 basketball recruits?
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:14 pm
Without any attrition I believe you have:
1)Stringer Sr
2)Coleman Sr
3)Courtney Sr
4)Hickey Jr
5)O'Bryant Jr
6)Collins So
7) Morgan So
8)Hammink So
9)Odo Jr
10)Malone Fr
11)Martin Fr
12)Mickey Fr
13)Quarterman Fr
If there is any attrition say Collins or Courtney
These two guys I believe should get a look what say the RB.
Jamal Jones 6-8 G Lee College #5 JUCO Recruiting
17.1 PPG, 34% 3PT, 5.4 Reb, 2.1 Ast
Long and athletic and fits into the mold of recruit Coach Jones seems to be looking for. Is a true 6'8 SG, he can pass the ball and can get to the rim at will. He says he is most interested in Texas A&M, Mizzou, and TCU
. Deng Deng also plays for Lee so that is some familarity.
Not a whole lot of video but the little I did find he looked as advertised.
Cameron Forte 6-6 G/F #33 JUCO Recruiting Howard College
22.6 PPG, 64% FG, 7.5 Reb, 2.5 Ast
Reminds you a lot of Coleman in that he is undersized but still athletic and versatile enough to be a tweener 3/4. College teammate of Coleman and Godfrey and will play at a Power 6 type school.
1)Stringer Sr
2)Coleman Sr
3)Courtney Sr
4)Hickey Jr
5)O'Bryant Jr
6)Collins So
7) Morgan So
8)Hammink So
9)Odo Jr
10)Malone Fr
11)Martin Fr
12)Mickey Fr
13)Quarterman Fr
If there is any attrition say Collins or Courtney
These two guys I believe should get a look what say the RB.
Jamal Jones 6-8 G Lee College #5 JUCO Recruiting
17.1 PPG, 34% 3PT, 5.4 Reb, 2.1 Ast
Long and athletic and fits into the mold of recruit Coach Jones seems to be looking for. Is a true 6'8 SG, he can pass the ball and can get to the rim at will. He says he is most interested in Texas A&M, Mizzou, and TCU
. Deng Deng also plays for Lee so that is some familarity. Not a whole lot of video but the little I did find he looked as advertised.
Cameron Forte 6-6 G/F #33 JUCO Recruiting Howard College
22.6 PPG, 64% FG, 7.5 Reb, 2.5 Ast
Reminds you a lot of Coleman in that he is undersized but still athletic and versatile enough to be a tweener 3/4. College teammate of Coleman and Godfrey and will play at a Power 6 type school.
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:16 pm to rzd30
No no no no no
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:20 pm to rzd30
Those are 2014 guys, not 2013.
22.6 PPG is pretty sick at any level.
22.6 PPG is pretty sick at any level.
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:25 pm to rzd30
I'm actually hoping there won't be any attrition. I wish people would realize how impactful Courtney is to the team from a leadership standpoint. He could be a key piece behind the scenes next season.
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:52 pm to ProjectP2294
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I wish people would realize how impactful Courtney is to the team from a leadership standpoint. He could be a key piece behind the scenes next season.
Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:54 pm to fjohns1
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fjohns1
Honestly not a laughing matter. You can tell he is a vocal leader around the locker room. LSU will have tons of players, but I would be upset if Courtney was left off the team.
I don't see any more 2013 recruits. We should be able to get a few 2014 guys locked up in the next 10 months though.
Posted on 3/18/13 at 3:24 pm to SouthOfSouth
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Honestly not a laughing matter. You can tell he is a vocal leader around the locker room. LSU will have tons of players, but I would be upset if Courtney was left off the team.
The one-and-done culture has changed this to some extent, but I still think it mostly applies:
I think the health of a program can be measured, in no small way, by the number of third and fourth-year players in a program. I always thought that, in a well-run program, those guys make up roughly half the roster, maybe a little more.
Having guys stick around shows you that 1. Guys are panning out and you aren't making recruiting mistakes and 2. Guys are buying in and aren't bailing out, even if they aren't playing a lot.
In bad programs, the guy who isn't playing is out of there as fast as the season is over. In a good program, a lot of times marginal players accept roles, become locker room leaders, etc., because they buy into the program and want to be part of something they are proud to be part of.
Often, in good programs, these guys end up giving you good minutes (or snaps in football). A good example is Derrick Bryant and Ron Brooks in LSU's secondary. Bryant gave them great snaps in that Auburn game where Simon and Mathieu were suspended. Brooks accepted a minor role as a dime back and helped make the secondary really special.
On teams where there isn't buy-in, those two guys would have left long before their senior season and would have been lining up for some Sun Belt or C-USA team.
If everybody comes back, LSU will have four guys in at least their third year. That's pretty good, considering the roster turnover that started with Brady and continued under Trent. I still see that as Trent's biggest failure. If you are not going to recruit in bulk, the ones you do recruit damn sure better not leave for Dayton, Maryland, San Diego State, Nebraska, Arkansas State, Florida Gulf Coast (am I forgetting any?).
Posted on 3/18/13 at 3:45 pm to CourseyCorridor
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the ones you do recruit damn sure better not leave for Dayton, Maryland, San Diego State, Nebraska, Arkansas State, Florida Gulf Coast (am I forgetting any?).
Substitute NC St for Maryland (Turner), FIU for FGCU (Delwan Graham), and add in Utah (I think) for Aaron Dotson, and you've covered them all.
Did Harris go to Arky St? I think he finished his career at a D2 school. Some of those were Brady's guys too. Not all Trent's.
Posted on 3/18/13 at 3:52 pm to ProjectP2294
You're right, I brainfarted on Turner and we both missed on Graham, who went to Jacksonville after a year at Chipola JC.
I think Harris went to Arky State, had an academic issue, and ended up at a D-II, NAIA, or whatever it was. And Dotson was the one I was forgetting.
You're right about some of those guys -- Bo, Graham and Harris in particular -- being Brady guys. But to me, that goes into the buy-in part. They obviously never bought in when Trent got there. And if was just them, I'd be more willing to buy the "those were Brady's guys," bit, but Trent's guys were leaving just as much as Brady's guys were leaving.
I think Harris went to Arky State, had an academic issue, and ended up at a D-II, NAIA, or whatever it was. And Dotson was the one I was forgetting.
You're right about some of those guys -- Bo, Graham and Harris in particular -- being Brady guys. But to me, that goes into the buy-in part. They obviously never bought in when Trent got there. And if was just them, I'd be more willing to buy the "those were Brady's guys," bit, but Trent's guys were leaving just as much as Brady's guys were leaving.
Posted on 3/18/13 at 3:58 pm to CourseyCorridor
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but Trent's guys were leaving just as much as Brady's guys were leaving.
This is true. Some people (myself included) just tried not to see it for a while.
Transferring in college basketball is so common now, if we don't lose anyone but seniors off our current roster, it would be sort of an anomaly. I think our style of play is conducive to keeping kids in the program though because we want to push tempo and score a lot, so we have to spread the minutes out.
Posted on 3/18/13 at 4:03 pm to ProjectP2294
Agreed. And I think roughly 50 percent of a roster being in a third or fourth year allows for SOME attrition beyond the 4-year cycle. You're never going to keep them all for four years. But there is a point where losing them early becomes a detriment to your program.
There are only so many programs that can do what Kentucky does. And, we've seen this year, even Kentucky can't do it every year and get away with it.
There are only so many programs that can do what Kentucky does. And, we've seen this year, even Kentucky can't do it every year and get away with it.
Posted on 3/18/13 at 4:23 pm to CourseyCorridor
Keep a eye on Brian Beidgwater over the next 2 months, may be the next addition.
Posted on 3/18/13 at 4:49 pm to rzd30
Really?
Posted on 3/18/13 at 5:37 pm to CourseyCorridor
yeah, harris is actually still playing at some division 2 school i believe. i posted it on the rant the other day.
graham would have been a nice helpful player over time but couldn't stay away from the hippie lettuce. kind of athlete that would have had a nice presenc eon last year's team.
harris just wasn't very physical and that back injury wasn't helping. he wasn't a difference maker so i think trent just let him go.
graham would have been a nice helpful player over time but couldn't stay away from the hippie lettuce. kind of athlete that would have had a nice presenc eon last year's team.
harris just wasn't very physical and that back injury wasn't helping. he wasn't a difference maker so i think trent just let him go.
Posted on 3/18/13 at 6:07 pm to chuckie3325
What makes you say that and where does his scholarship come from?
Posted on 3/18/13 at 8:25 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
We need a SG that can create his own shot and defend the perimeter. Without that this team cannot reach its full potential next year.
Posted on 3/18/13 at 8:31 pm to ezrulz
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We need a SG that can create his own shot and defend the perimeter. Without that this team cannot reach its full potential next year.
I think you're going to see Morgan make the biggest improvement from the team this year to next year. I think he's the best candidate for that. At 6'4 he can defend any SG and if he gets his shot down he'll be really tough to defend against because then not only can he cut to the hoop from the left side, he can now be a consistent threat behind the arc.
My second most improved player will be Hickey. I think with Johnny Jones around now he's much more serious and will work on his FT shooting this offseason as well as delegate more next season since he wont have to become "the guy" scoring as much.
Posted on 3/18/13 at 8:39 pm to rzd30
If there's attrition it is JOB and Hickey. Maybe Collins.
Trent always talked about the Jackson guys meaning Stringer, Courtney, and JOB. They will leave together next year, but not before.
Hickey is the big concern.
Trent always talked about the Jackson guys meaning Stringer, Courtney, and JOB. They will leave together next year, but not before.
Hickey is the big concern.
Posted on 3/18/13 at 8:41 pm to chuckie3325
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Keep a eye on Brian Beidgwater over the next 2 months, may be the next addition.
I'm for this, but not at the expense of anybody currently on the roster. I think the fact that he stuck with basketball shows that he loves the game and I think he would play hard in any role that's asked of him.
I like the roster as it currently projects. If the Corban Collins thing isn't working out, though, I don't think Bridgewater is a fit to replace him because they'd need another PG. The fear is they lose one of their recruits because of some academic issue.
Prime Prep already has a history of NCAA issues. I'm not sure about Madison prep and international kids often hit stumbling blocks because the difference between American and Australian curriculums. Ask Ricky Blanton and JP Piper about that sometime, they've had some adventures with this at Nicholls (I think Ricky got in some NCAA hot water over it).
Of course, I hope LSU gets all three in with no problems. But I just sort of fear the potential of issues there, though I have no specific reason to believe there will be a problem.
Posted on 3/18/13 at 8:49 pm to tigabait01
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Hickey is the big concern.
...in what way? You think he gets kicked off the team or something? He seemed to straighten up a lot after JJ got on his arse earlier in the year.
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