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McMahon's Only Hope

Posted on 3/22/23 at 4:52 pm
Posted by FreeState
Member since Jun 2012
3198 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 4:52 pm
Is getting some boosters who are willing to drop about a zillion bucks into the NIL program right now and hope to get a half dozen SEC caliber players convinced/bought.

I have my doubts though if any amount of money can salvage what Scott hath wrought.
Posted by deathvalleyfreak43
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13312 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 4:58 pm to
Does the band have any really tall Tuba players??
Posted by Aforem7
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
887 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 5:15 pm to
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28733 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 5:28 pm to
This roster was talented enough to perform better than 14-19 (3-17 including SECT), most of those 14 wins coming against the weakest non-conf. schedule among SEC teams. So it is going to take MUCH more than just an improved roster. McMahon got a crash course and arse-kicking in power conf. basketball this year. If he doesn't significantly adjust his in-game approach next season a "more talented" roster isn't going to produce significantly better results on its own. This season's roster was mid-tier SEC talent. The atrocious coaching made it a bottom of the league team.
Posted by Double Down
Mayor of St. George
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 5:31 pm to
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I have my doubts though if any amount of money can salvage what Scott hath wrought.


Well you’re a moron, so…
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
31175 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 5:37 pm to
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I have my doubts though if any amount of money can salvage what Scott hath wrought.



I appreciate you openly admitting you are an irrational thinker.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71950 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 6:13 pm to
He got the juice to get a cut of that money over the other coaches at LSU that are killing it?
Posted by FreeState
Member since Jun 2012
3198 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 6:17 pm to
Well you're a Southeastern fan, so....
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
7068 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 8:09 pm to
Step it up in recruiting.

We can't live on the portal only.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 8:19 pm to
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What Scott hath wrought


Scott hired our new coach, but our old coach is the one who decided to play the part of an arrogant fool and laid our basketball program open to 5 level one charges. That doesn’t even take into consideration his failure to be willing to even meet with the LSU administration and tell them what was going on.

I’m just so shocked LSU decided to fire him. lol
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
5786 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 8:39 pm to
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This season's roster was mid-tier SEC talent

You must literally have brain damage if you believe this
Posted by Tigerfan14
Member since Jun 2014
954 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 8:53 pm to
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You must literally have brain damage if you believe this


Returned 3 players from the previous year. Landed a 5*, top 50 recruit, and another top 100 recruit. Brought his best player and a 2nd team all conference player from his previous team. Do you believe McMohan maximized the talent on this roster? Ole Miss wiped the floor with us after firing their coach. Were they just too talented for us to compete with?
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
5786 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:08 pm to
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Returned 3 players from the previous year. Landed a 5*, top 50 recruit, and another top 100 recruit. Brought his best player and a 2nd team all conference player from his previous team

The returning players were shite. A freshman center isn’t going to do anything in the SEC unless he’s a complete freak and he wasn’t taking minutes from KJ anyway. And are you really listing Justice Hill like he’s someone noteworthy?

That leaves Tyrell Ward, Jalen Reed, and KJ Williams. Sorry bud, KJ, 2 highly rated freshman recruits, and a bunch of garbage can horrible players aren’t a “middle of the pack SEC roster” no matter how much y’all try to spin it
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279469 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:20 pm to
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This season's roster was mid-tier SEC talent.


Lol
Posted by Tigerfan14
Member since Jun 2014
954 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:22 pm to
One of the returning players was a starter on 2 tournament teams. Another started for a final 4 team and was supposed to start last year. Justice Hill, the guy McMohan developed, brought over to LSU and played 30 mpg… who does that fall on?

I don’t get why people like you keep trying to act like everyone else is crazy while defending a 2-16 season. The coaches in the SEC even thought LSU was middle of the pack. They predicted them to finish 8th. If everyone knew this team was going to be a shite show on hardwood, why does the current coach not take any blame?
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
5786 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:53 pm to
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I don’t get why people like you keep trying to act like everyone else is crazy while defending a 2-16 season

I’m not defending the season. But I’m also not cherrypicking random accolades and acting like we had 8 quality players on the roster this season when that’s objectively not true. The manipulative bullshite from Will Wade simps to make McMahon look as bad as possible is old. Objectively, McMahon had one of the worst rosters in the SEC, he didn’t coach them up and they actually seemed to regress throughout the season, and it was a shitshow. You don’t need to pretend that we had the 1989-1990 roster out there this season because you’re mad that Woodward fired your boy. Get over it
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27448 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:06 pm to
season's roster was mid-tier SEC talent. The atrocious coaching made it a bottom of the league team.




How can you say mid tier?

Maybe 2 players would start on other sec teams.
Posted by The Truth 34
Chavez Ravine
Member since May 2010
41199 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:07 pm to
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Objectively, McMahon had one of the worst rosters in the SEC,


Team was picked to finish middle of the league, so you are incorrect.
Posted by Curtis Lowe
Member since Dec 2019
1324 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:18 pm to
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I don’t get why people like you keep trying to act like everyone else is crazy while defending a 2-16 season.


I don't think it is a matter of defending a 2-16 season, everyone will agree that it was horrendous, as much as pointing out that this was not an overly talented roster at this point in time.

Take a look at the transfers:

On how many SEC teams would Fountain start? Average 20+ minutes a game? He may be a rotational piece on several teams, but not a starter.

Do the same for Hill and Hannibal. Would either start for any other SEC team?

Coleman was not SEC material.

KJ and Cam Hayes would at a minimum be rotational pieces at almost all of the SEC schools. KJ would start at most SEC schools (more than half of SEC schools) and Hayes maybe would start at several SEC schools.

One of the three returning players and one of the incoming recruits were injured and missed most or all of the season.

Of the other two returning players, would Miller or Justice Williams start at any of the other SEC schools? Miller maybe a few, a solid rotational player at the minimum at most SEC schools. Williams (a reclass to the 2021 class) and the other three freshman are in the developmental phases of their careers, both mentally and physically. Saw some flashes and then saw a lot of freshman from them. Ward seemed to make the most progress during his freshman season. But, at this point in their development they would not be starting at other SEC schools.

I am not saying the team is totally devoid of talent, just that in aggregate at this point in time it was not middle of the pack SEC talent.

Nor am I absolving the coaching staff for the SEC results on the court this season.

But, to try and place all of the blame for said SEC results on either one or the other is short-sighted. It was a combination of both and both had ramifications that lead to the results this season.

Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10441 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 1:13 am to
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On how many SEC teams would Fountain start? Average 20+ minutes a game? He may be a rotational piece on several teams, but not a starter.

Do the same for Hill and Hannibal. Would either start for any other SEC team?

Coleman was not SEC material.

KJ and Cam Hayes would at a minimum be rotational pieces at almost all of the SEC schools. KJ would start at most SEC schools (more than half of SEC schools) and Hayes maybe would start at several SEC schools.


The individual pieces were not that bad. The problem was the inconsistency of everyone game to game except K J Williams. Miller, Fountain or Hayes would score 25 one night then the next game get only 5 points. The freshmen were also inconsistent but that was to be expected. All of them showed enough promise at times that they could be key building blocks with good experience. Its crucial to add a couple of really good players from the portal, hopefully a Tori Eason type, a dynamic point guard and maybe a force down low to br a defensive and rebounding presence. This team could then actually be in the top half of th eleague and push for the post season .

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