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re: HOLD THAT TIGER !! Curry Commits

Posted on 6/23/17 at 2:53 pm to
Posted by reo45
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Posted on 6/23/17 at 2:53 pm to
I'm following ya..

Porter, hopefully he commits, but Auburn has just a good of chance in my eyes.

I also believe Surtain and Miller are takes.

Wide Receiver I'd rather have Marshall, Jason, and keys or chase.

Running Back I see Franklin if he gets the grades and or Joiner.

Beal or Spivey would be fine by me, but not both because of numbers.

We get one JUCO lineman for sure as it is a priority of Coach O's.

Then I have beef when it comes to Bolden from West Monroe. Where do you place him? What slot? Coache's obviously want him, but where? Wide Receiver? If so, who is left out? Keys, Chase?

If he is a RB, who goes? They love Many's running back Carter, but we already received commitment from a bruiser back in Curry.

I'm telling you, numbers are going to catch up. Somebody is going to be disappointed in the end.

Just as the other poster mentioned about no longer recruiting being niceties, but about winning we are about to go down that road this year it looks like.

I have no problem with it. Rationing sucks.
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 2:58 pm to
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Not that I believe in throwing in the towel early, but I would bet with high confidence that we can scratch Sopsher off the board all together. I haven't heard enough from Lee's corner to know if he is working with Petito also, but Im sure at best it will be quite the fight to keep him in state, so we cant count that as a layup.



We can't afford to lose both to Alabama. I don't even know if Amite could afford it as people may vote them out of the state 3 five stars in 3 years to your main rival?? That shite don't fly, anywhere. It would be similar to Ohio St losing 3 five stars to Michigan from right down the road in 3 years. Ain't gonna work son.

But, that aside I see Coach O as a different recruiter and we will have to wait and see how he plays it down there in Amite these next couple of years. I wouldn't count them out just yet.

As for your sentiments on this class with it's needs, but lack of top flight talent on the offensive side of the ball I couldn't agree more. Our needs fit for next years class, but we need players now. We would like to go light this year and heavy next with scholarships, but we can't afford to. Tough situation for the staff to deal with.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 3:00 pm to
yeah, I just said that cause I know they are after Chase, Keys III, Marshall, Jason, J Houston, and a Houston WR who's name I can't remember right now. And at RB you can add Joiner and Valentine to those names you listed, and Carter too as reo45 says. Just lots of players going down to the wire, it's crazy
This post was edited on 6/23/17 at 3:10 pm
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 3:14 pm to
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I also believe Surtain and Miller are takes.
and you can add Stingley to that list to, especially with the way they serenaded him yesterday I believe for his birthday, they want him back bad. lol
Posted by BOZ4LSU
A place
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Posted on 6/23/17 at 5:34 pm to
Posted by BillyBobBlitzkrieg
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2013
1352 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:18 pm to
quote:

I'm following ya..

Porter, hopefully he commits, but Auburn has just a good of chance in my eyes.

I also believe Surtain and Miller are takes.

Wide Receiver I'd rather have Marshall, Jason, and keys or chase.

Running Back I see Franklin if he gets the grades and or Joiner.

Beal or Spivey would be fine by me, but not both because of numbers.

We get one JUCO lineman for sure as it is a priority of Coach O's.

Then I have beef when it comes to Bolden from West Monroe. Where do you place him? What slot? Coache's obviously want him, but where? Wide Receiver? If so, who is left out? Keys, Chase?

If he is a RB, who goes? They love Many's running back Carter, but we already received commitment from a bruiser back in Curry.

I'm telling you, numbers are going to catch up. Somebody is going to be disappointed in the end.

Just as the other poster mentioned about no longer recruiting being niceties, but about winning we are about to go down that road this year it looks like.

I have no problem with it. Rationing sucks.


Agreed, you and I are definitely on the same page.

I would take Beal and Spivey also, by kicking Griffin off.

Bolden would be a take as an ATH. He could be in the mix as a slot WR or a RB, and you can justify the numbers by just labeling him as ATH.

The second RB would be Carter, but honestly I like both Carter and Franklin better than Curry, so do we slowly back off him if we get Carter and Franklin pulls in the grades?

Im agreed 1000 percent, numbers will catch up, but we always have a decommit or two. I also liked last year how we had a couple extra spots open, so that we could take a kid that decides late like Jefferson, or a clutch transfer like Fehoko or Giles, but that doesnt always work out and is a bit of a gamble unless you have it in the works ahead of time.

I actually think this is a good way to go. I would rather take lots of commits early on to be ahead of the game, and then back off the guys that slip off the board, or be upfront with them and have them find a Plan B that way, we dont burn bridges.

This strategy has us ahead of the curve instead of what happened last cycle with 2 to 4 open spots with expected signees that declare on NSD, but chose another team. This allows the staff to pour energy and resources into 2019 which looks to be a marquee year for recruiting. Next year will be another Hill, Collins, Landry, Beckham, Hillard, Anthony Johnson, Mettenberger type class like 2011, or the 2009 class.

I think the staff has beaten other teams out of the gate in terms of the early signing period by using this strategy and it will pay dividends. Other schools will undoubtedly catch up, including our rival gumps, but the extra work load during the season will definitely add undue stress, so this strategy is great.

Instead of expecting a big signing day, I think we will see the board shuffle and shift and for once I dont know what to expect. I have been following recruiting since the Joe Mcknight days, and this is a total shift in philosophy. The only school I have seen do it kinda like this was Mack Brown at Texas, but for totally different reasons. Brown would just take like 15 commits during the summer camps, and take whoever was the best of that crop without hitting the road recruiting. I know O and staff arent doing that, but instead are hitting the road relentlessly.

I just hope Coach O is trusting Austin Thomas heavily. Recruiting is O specialty, like the Dline, but like with Pete Jenkins, he needs to work in tandem, work in tandem and give that man a fat raise/promotion or whatever he needs to stay because he has a rare knack for indentifying and evaluating talent well ahead of the curve and I have heard that also includes class composition, and even chess components.

For instance, if recruit A and B are virtually the same in talent, but recruit A comes from a feeder school with 2 potential underclassmen that will procure offers, and recruit B comes from an out of state small school; Thomas pursue's recruit A harder, while keeping the interest warm with recruit B on the back burner in case something unforeseen falls through.

It's hard to judge at this point because it is only june, but Ill be excited and interested to see how the class changes and all comes together by both December, the new signing period, and February, the original.

This post was edited on 6/23/17 at 9:32 pm
Posted by BillyBobBlitzkrieg
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2013
1352 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:27 pm to
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We can't afford to lose both to Alabama. I don't even know if Amite could afford it as people may vote them out of the state 3 five stars in 3 years to your main rival?? That shite don't fly, anywhere. It would be similar to Ohio St losing 3 five stars to Michigan from right down the road in 3 years. Ain't gonna work son.

But, that aside I see Coach O as a different recruiter and we will have to wait and see how he plays it down there in Amite these next couple of years. I wouldn't count them out just yet.

As for your sentiments on this class with it's needs, but lack of top flight talent on the offensive side of the ball I couldn't agree more. Our needs fit for next years class, but we need players now. We would like to go light this year and heavy next with scholarships, but we can't afford to. Tough situation for the staff to deal with.



It's like we speak the same language. Following recruiting for about 10 years, almost daily, has been a constant hobby of mine. You can tell those who do it in passing, and those who are recruitniks or recruiting junkies. It's good to be able to speak to someone who is as knowledgable and reasonable as you are.

I agree. I've learned to lower my expectations in certain areas (Sophsher in this case) as his song and dance just screams Bama. He is doing exactly what Mathis, Devante Smith, Chris Allen, Moses, Shyheim Carter, Bradley Slyve, and Hootie did in the past. I expect the worst with him, but will hope for the best. There does seem to be an insider on here that says he has character problems, but that is hit or miss on whether that is accurate. I lean to believe him on my gut though.

However, in the last 10 years, we have only flipped one recruit from Bama, and that was Andy Dodd, and he was out of state. We have never had a recruit commit to Saban and then flip to LSU under Miles, until Dare Rosenthal. Thats the truth and can be researched. That said, Dare is the first true flip and Im floored about it, and think that was Orgeron's doing. That does give me some small hope.

I am with you though, the state needs to threaten to cut all state supported taxes in the area if all 3 of those 5 star kids go to Bama
Posted by BillyBobBlitzkrieg
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2013
1352 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:35 pm to
quote:

yeah, I just said that cause I know they are after Chase, Keys III, Marshall, Jason, J Houston, and a Houston WR who's name I can't remember right now. And at RB you can add Joiner and Valentine to those names you listed, and Carter too as reo45 says. Just lots of players going down to the wire, it's crazy


The way I see it, its actually a good problem to have. We are ahead of the game in terms of evaluation, class composition, and in road building. Now its all on which players fit Canadas offense the best, maintainence, inroad building, re-evaluating, and looking ahead to 2019 and even 2020. I truly believe no matter how you recruit you cant execute perfectly, every strategy has a tiny downfall, but that this is the best problem to have.
This post was edited on 6/25/17 at 1:28 pm
Posted by BillyBobBlitzkrieg
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2013
1352 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 9:59 pm to
This post was edited on 6/25/17 at 1:28 pm
Posted by BillyBobBlitzkrieg
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2013
1352 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:13 pm to
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and you can add Stingley to that list to, especially with the way they serenaded him yesterday I believe for his birthday, they want him back bad. lol


Stingley is 2019 and I fully expect him to wind back up in P&G. I think he just wants to be wined and dined on someone elses dime, and there is nothing wrong with that.

Posted by 1723lale
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
2221 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:45 pm to
Tubucoco, i understand what you are saying about the need for offensive recruits, I don't think you understood my point in that why would you say you "don't care if we get Anderson, and let him go, I'm not high on him". I understand he could flip... but what if he sticks with LSU? man, I don't care as much if we lose Griffin, A.Washington,T.Moore, or Baskerville, as opposed to losing Anderson. That's what I'm trying say. I just didn't agree with your attitude about Anderson.
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